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If You Are So Dumb That Voter Suppression Efforts Work-Should You Even Be Voting Anyway?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Dayton3, Nov 8, 2019.

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  1. Daggdag

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    many of the voter supression techniques don't rely on intellgence or lack thereof. For example, when Alabama passed their voter ID law, they attempted to shut down all licenses branch offices in minority and heavily democratic areas of the state. They wanted to make it harder for minority, poor, etc to have access to state ID cards. That didn't have anything to with intelligence.
     
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    I agree that tampering with the voting machines is and should be a crime. Are you aware of anyone who has tampered with voting machines anywhere?
     
    Longshot, Nov 10, 2019
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    How do you agree with something no one said?
     
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    The poster to whom I was replying specifically said "tampering".
     
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    It should be illegal to broadcast lies on tv in order to portray an American businessman as the asset of our biggest adversarial foreign power
     
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    Tell that to US corporations that must compete with these countries in sectors that are where economic growth is coming from.

    Whose side are you on?
     
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    I was referring to geographical size in how it relates to internet speeds.
     
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    Will the Ministry of Truth determine what speech is lies?
     
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    You don't understand how the internet is constructed.

    We have NO excuse.
     
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    Only if the Democrats take over.
     
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    We should go back to only property owners voting.
     
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    I agree, but are you going to accuse the whole Party for what one or two people did?
     
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    No equivalent on the Left? How about CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC? Trump has done a lot for America and the American people. But the Left sure doesn't know any of it, because the bias news isn't telling any of it. Case in point.

    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2402122609884100
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lets see what the news says about Trump. How unbiased are they?

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    What he didn't say was "machines".
     
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    So no machines were tampered with? Was the data tampered with? The tallies?
     
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    Liberals don't listen to Right hand radio stations and they don't listen to Fox. Most churches don't get into politics. So where is half the nation getting their news? From ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS etc and they aren't telling the people any damn thing good Trump has done and that video and chart shows it.
     
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    You seem to be off in some conversation with yourself
     
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    So there was no actual tampering? Is this what you're finally admitting?
     
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    So it ain't true if it don't come from Fox?
     
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    I can show you a lot of stuff and none of it is from Fox. As a matter of fact, much of it is from the far Left. But you'll only get it if you go to their financial stations or financial page. They won't show any of it on the news station, or front or home page. Case in point. They don't get any farther Left than the NY Times, CNN, NBC.

    Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
    www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
    Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
    How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
    Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
    Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…



    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.

    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
     
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    They will tell you Obama had 11 million jobs under his policies and they are right. They will tell you Obama had 80 some months of continued job growth and they will be right. What they won't tell you is what kind of jobs his policies created. It's called half truths and they are famous of doing that. They tell you only what they want you to hear and not all of it, which will change what they are trying to make you believe completely.
     
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    On the other side of that ledger is the crash of Bush, wherein the wealth of millions of Americans and the jobs of millions more were lost.

    What kind of jobs were those?
     
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