Is Anyone Happy with TrumpCare?

Whatever I have I am happy with it. I am most happy because I do not have to rely on the VA.

 

No you don't! If you trip in the shower and crack you head, the American people will have to pay for your emergency room fees and a hefty part of your burial process.

And if you're going to say that, though there is no actual legal way to force your survivors to pay, you're going to leave specific instructions... yeah... look. I don' trust you to do that.

Universal insurance ensures that freeloaders who have the financial capacity, help pay for their own medical expenses

 

Rarely have I been more serious in my life.

 

Why care since the mandate is gone?

 

Because it will go down in history as yet another one of Trump's biggest blunders. Well.. at least one of the biggest in the category of "Not Completely Illegal"

When all this becomes history, Trump supporters will have quite a few idiotic policies they will have to deny they ever supported respond for.

 

Uhm it saves me money

Wait a second, so you think me not paying for your behavior is a blunder?

 

Instead of whining about most Americans who, consistently and relentlessly, disapprove of Trump, true believers need to force themselves to honestly face up to Trump®Care, the promise and the reality.

 

It's just a matter of perspective. When the American people pays for healthcare of those who can't afford it the right calls it "freeloading". Which is how the left describes the American people paying for those who can afford it.

No. What is a blunder is me paying for yours.

 

Dont take it out on me. I've never advocated that anyone has an obligation to treat. IMO if I slip in the shower and crack my head with no ability to pay for care, providers should be allowed to leave me there to die.

You're essentially just bitching that you're worried about me taking advantage of a system that I never wanted to participate in and want to be able to opt out of without paying for. And you obviously don't even see how rediculous that makes you sound.

 

But they're not. Therefore, you would become a burden to society.

You can always opt out easily. By living in a country where you could slip in the shower and nobody would give a crap. If you really didn't mind. I'm not buying it, though.

Fact is that those who want others to pay for their needs can always find an excuse. This is why we need to make it mandatory. Because of the many that won't do it voluntarily. It's precisely the reason why they want to make it voluntary.

 

The mandate is gone. Mission accomplished.

 

And here you are. Inventing an excuse to get others to pay for your healthcare. Oh the irony. Oh the self awareness.

 

Ah. The old 'if you don't like it, then leave' non-argument...

How bout building a system everyone wants to participate in, instead of one that only 'works' if its mandatory.

 

Ironic. Because I'm paying for my healthcare. The poster I respond to, as they themselves admitted, is not! Are you? If you are, explain why. If you're not, then you're in their boat... and I'm not. A non-response would be enough to confirm this.

 

You claim you want the government to extract itself from the private sector, but what do you support? The more pragmatic public option, or the medicare for all?

 

What is Trumpcare?

 

What is Trumpcare?

 

The absence of Trump Care is what makes it so great. Healthcare is not manageable at the federal level, and neither is it one of its enumerated powers. The sooner we all learn that, the better off we will all be.

What is great about Trump Care is the elimination of the individual mandate. That one action alone is worth its weight in gold.

As the old saying goes, less is more; and the less federal intrusion into healthcare, the more health care we will have access to, and the more affordable the pricing.

 

Empty campaign promises.

 

No. There are great benefits to living in this society. But it comes with obligations. Enjoying the benefits but refusing to meet the obligations is what I would call "freeloading".

Unfortunately, in this country there is a "right" to be a freeloader right now. But they have no moral right to preach to the rest of us.

There is no system possible that freeloaders would "want" to participate in. Ironically, the closest to what a Republican healthcare plan would look like is Obamacare. Other than that, they have only advocated for no healthcare plan whatsoever: no pre-existing conditions, emergency room as the only alternative for many, taxpayers eating up emergency room costs, Insurance companies setting the "rules" as to who gets to have a financial future, and who has to declare bankruptcy, as well as to increase prices as they see fit ...

Whatever system ever emerges where "everyone wants to participate in" is clearly not going to come from the right.

I don't know of any system in the world that "everyone" likes. But I do know many that, while not "perfect", an overwhelming majority of the people, left, right, center... will defend no matter what. To the point where no politician from any position in the political spectrum would dare touch. All of them are universal healthcare systems.

 

I'm trying to opt out of the benefits. Why not let me? Why is it so hard to create a system that isn't obligated to treat me?

 

So in other words, there is no such thing as Trumpcare. Since Trump failed to get it repealed and replaced, we still have...Obamacare.

Like it?

 

Personally, just about as happy as I was with Obamacare. It did exactly the opposite if what it claimed it would do and had continuous increase in price from its inception. I suspect this new version will have similar problems.

The real problem is, people like you who only want to put the blame on one and forgive the other. Just plain wrong.

 

There is such a system. It's called Somalia. Though it's not the perfect solution. Because somebody will still need to bury your ass so your corpse doesn't contaminate the rest of the population with scores of infectious diseases.

I guess the perfect solution would be an isolated unpopulated island somewhere in which there are enough scavengers that you don't infect the wildlife if you slip in the shower.

First step: be sure to tatoo D N R in big letters on your chest and all over your body. As well as instructions to donate your body to research, and medical or academic use. But that would only cover you if you slip in the shower. Because if you fall into a ditch and don't die, rescue workers, some of which may be paid with medical funds, will still have to carry you to the hospital. So the unpopulated island is your only alternative.

 

Thanks for the explanation. My costs have remained pretty much the same with only slight increases over the last three years in parts of my coverage with my drug options being cut in half, oh yea, I did get to keep my doctor and my clinic. so to answer your question, yes I am very happy with Trumpcare. Thank you very much for asking.