Trump ordered US drone strike that killed Iran general Qassem Suleimani

Trump is a hero for ridding the world of the monster responsible for hundreds of thousands of innocents around the globe. This is one of Trump’s greatest accomplishments.

 

Trump is warning Iran against retaliation....

President Trump says if Iran strikes any Americans, the US will target 52 Iranian sites, representing the 52 American Hostages taken by Iran, including "very high level" targets.

 

I suppose the interesting scenario is that we basically now have two batshit crazy mad fcukers sitting at opposite ends of the desk just bruising for a fight. And of course with both leaders being hard line extremists wrapped up in their own deranged little worlds its gunna be an interesting bun fight. It’s worth remembering even the Israelis held back from killing the guy as they thought the blowback would exceed any short term gain.

@AFM - hows the mulling going....any thoughts negotiating their way towards daylight....

 

That is exactly what he should do. Cross the line again and the consequences will be more severe.

 

Yes, the mullah’s are mulling. That’s for certain.

 

I think too that a neglected aspect of the discussions is that this Iranian was in Iraq, mixing with irregular militias.

It's not like we sent a missile through the window of his government office in Teheran.

Was he there at the invitation or sufferance of the Government of Iraq? With its knowledge? Was he there to avenge some act of aggression committed against Iran?

 

Republicans create conflicts in other parts of the world in order to win an election. Reagan did it, Bush did it and now Trump does it. But it doesn't have to be a republican president, it could be any republican in office because they can start a conflict from the shadows rather than the Office.

In the Iran Contra scandal, Reagan was selling arms to the Contras and to Iran both. The US instigated war and conflict between Iran and Iraq

For three years, Trump has adamantly refused to believe each of our U.S. Intelligence agencies when they have provided positive proof that Russia interfered with our 2016 election. Suddenly he's believing and trusting his own intelligence on this? It's bullshit and it's all designed to distract from his impeachment.

 

This is all contrived by the republicans. Republicans have historically created conflict in other parts of the world in an election year. Ronald Reagan did it, George Bush did it and now Trump is doing it.

For the past three years Trump has denied facts provided to him by our own US Intelligence agencies who have proven that Russian interfered with our 2016 election. He took Putin's side over our own US Intel. Now, suddenly, he trusted US intelligence to assassinate the top Iranian general and two other high level Iraqi military? They're saying that Suleimani had been planning imminent attacks on US personnel, but no evidence was laid out. The U.S. has been tracking this general for years, but the US always held off on any strike because of fear of repercussions. This is a very dangerous game that Trump has chosen to play.

In 2011, Trump made a video saying that Obama would start a war just to get re-elected, and added "and isn't it pathetic". Trump just did exactly what he claimed Obama would do, which of course he didn't. What the U.S. did by assassinating Suleimani, was to open a door that we really never wanted opened.

International law is not like the law that we know, it's not a rigid set of rules enforced by police because there is no international police. International law is basically a set of precedents. One of those precedents is that you cannot kill the soldiers of another country unless you're on a declared battlefield. That is an important precedent because it protects our men and women who are deployed all over the world in non-battle zones. The concern is that in throwing away that precedent we risk entering an era of geo-politics by assassination. And so it begins.

 

Yes, the West kills the killer.
The killer, however, kills the innocent - they are easier to kill.
There's a moral issue here you are missing - this guy is not
much different to the leaders of ISIS and Al Qaeda.

 

This is similar to Bin Laden in Pakistan.

 

Soleimani was actually far more lethal than either of them.

 

Meanwhile Iran hangs more gays.

 

I see this as inaccurate. Just like in some marriages it only takes one partner to cause a fight. If you have a radical General hell bent on inflicting USA casualties what do you expect? the US to roll over and accept it?

What ever people believe I think the US overall is the savior of the world as we know it. Imagine the US being as powerful as Argentina? Where would these radical states be in terms of world domination? Terrorism would be in every corner of the world. That is why the US has allies.

The USA is extreme however- extreme for freedom and ridding the world of terrorism.

 

It's refreshing to see a sensible Australian.

 

The U.S. is unlikely to be as marginalized in the Middle East as you seem to think. Why? Because the oil producing states need to shift quickly from oil to other production. They need the West to provide technology and financing.

 

What a joke. The USA is interested in only one thing, and that’s the almighty dollar. All that “freedom” crap is fed to the gullible fools like yourself who need to be told how and what to think.

 

Strange that so many in the world want to come here.

 

Can't remember the context, but a reporter was asking an Afghan about the difference between american soldiers and the Taliban.

"Americans are here to save lives."

 

I'm not even sure our military would go along with nuking a country like Iran.

 

You may be right. I hope our leadership is at least considering other approaches.

 

It seems to me that is exactly what you are displaying.

 

But he is a government official not a terrorist. An enemy an adversary sanctioned by a government. That’s the difference. The Saudi prince had an American killed and chopped up but no drone strike. There is a difference he wasnt a leader of a terrorist just a high ranking general in Iran. The terrorist leader killed is a blow to the organization a general killed is a call to war.

 

No they are not sadly because diplomacy from us is gone but the rest of the world should learn how to lead.

 

Its also not like invading a country we were not invited in to kill Bin Laden.

 

Some predicted a Trump presidency would lead to a stock market crash. Then a imminent recession. Then Trump would lead us into war with Little Rocket Man. Moving our embassy to Jerusalem would cause more war.

Excuse me if I ignore the doomsday cries.