Trump ordered US drone strike that killed Iran general Qassem Suleimani

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  1. Reasonablerob

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    What military aggression? Everyone loves the US, people die trying to get to live there. The people who hate the US are those who don't believe in US values, freedom, prosperity, justice etc
     
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    The WMDs where real, the ISIS found them/used them US soldiers also found them and got hurt by them.


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    Buzz off! You ain’t no mod, sonny. I’ve been a member here ever since you were in diapers.
     
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    Just dealing with the deaths in Iraq we have around 2.4million. That still not enough for you?

    https://twitter.com/shailjapatel/status/1213120990189936644
     
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    Obama inherited a safe, stable, and secure Iraq with however Iran peering over the border. He gave it away by pulling out all of our military, intelligence, and governance personnel against the advice of all his senior defense and state dept officials. The lessons of history - Europe, Japan, and Korea post WW2 were ignored by Obama either because he was a moron (he didn't know what would happen) or for political reasons (he knew what would happen and accepted the loss of life as justified).
     
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    Obama should have left ~ 25,000 troops in Iraq which is the same number as are in South Korea and Japan and about half the number in Europe. The troops could have been drawn down from all three of those locations.
     
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    Everyone says soft targets. You have no idea what they are capable of without sending one of their troops. They ally with crazy people who were just waiting for the nod of approval. You then can’t necessarily say Iran did it because you will have no evidence. Just a terrorist group claiming responsibilit.
     
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    That's absurd. But if true it means that AQI was a much larger killing machine than anyone has thought.

    Sadam killed approximately the same number of innocents per year than AQI did.
     
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    Name some of these new enemies which have been created.
     
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    Doesn’t get rid of the flea bites, regime annihilation will.
     
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    As opposed to life in the Ottoman empire? :(
     
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    Yeah, sure--your Imaginary God put his hand on the scale.
     
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    I included enough of the exchange so anyone interested can judge for themselves.
     
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    What about the Ottoman Empire? Only a fool would liken the hierarchal nature of the Ottoman Empire; which not only lasted for centuries and spanned thousands of miles, but also produced great cultural achievements; to some pro-American loser dictator who gets toppled after a mere decade of “service.”
     
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    Obama enabled Iran and they continued to kill innocent people.
     
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    Does killing Soleimani positively impact the situation? Will his death disrupt their plans as Trump claims? Would killing a U.S. general slow us down?
     
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    There is no comparison. This was more like killing the master strategist or CIC.
     
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    Killing Soleimani clearly negatively impacts the ability and risk for Iran to continue their state sponsored terrorism.
     
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    So, the Iraqi Parliament just voted to have all foreign troops leave the country. Guess that's one way to disengage from the Middle East.
     
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    Exactjy. Soleimani was the terrorism leader and the number two government official in Iran who set the entire international and domestic terrorism doctrines of Iran. Trump was brilliant to kill him and to then provide a list of 52 Iranian targets (which Iran will have to defend) if Iran retaliates.
     
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    That vote has no legal binding according to the WSJ.
     
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    So would you go with another poster who wanted Iran nuked - except you would also want Saudi Arabia and friends gone to. I cannot debate with someone who does not respect life but thank you for your honesty.
     
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    According to the NYT, it must be signed by the PM to have effect. However, since it was the PM who drafted the resolution and presented it to Parliament for the vote, he's "expected" to sign it.
    Apparently, the Europeans who also have contingents stationed in Iraq are in favor of remaining, in order to continue training Iraqi forces to continue the fight against ISIS. What fight against ISIS? My understanding was that we'd destroyed ISIS, along with our Kurdish allies, which then enabled us to allow the Turks to invade Syria?
     
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    The Ottoman Empire "produced great cultural achievements?" There were some achievements in science, for example, but very little compared to the West.
     

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