Trump and religious liberty -- Militant atheists have met their match with our president

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  1. SEAL Team V

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    And lately this seems to be the god of choice for many Americans.
     
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    You are correct, however I do think more Americans should declare their independence from govt handouts. Too many Americans and illegals depend on welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, subsidized housing, unemployment, fraudulent disability, etc.
     
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    Without the Declaration......no Constitution it's as I said.
     
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    Elitist attitude on your part. Our Nation was not "founded" on slavery from the beginning as the poster said. A parent does not "bad mouth" their children. Maybe you would....you made the comparison. There were signers of the Constitution from the beginning that worked to overturn slavery in America. America overcomes it's faults. You can criticize mistakes but you don't badmouth the country and Democrats go over seas and badmouth the country. It is quite the norm for them. Moronic of you to come up with the parent child comparison.
     
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    Unless you are claiming we couldn't have possibly distanced ourselves from British rule without that specifically worded document . . . and that we couldn't have possibly founded a country later without specifically wording our break with England in exactly that way . . . I'm putting ellipses here because I don't think anyone is that gullible but I guess I have to leave space for it . . .
     
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    what part of the country do you love? the handouts? the Bidens? the redistribution? Since you want to break it down....please do so. and I know what you can do with the lemons!
     
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    You can mince words....but they did not. What God was Lincoln referring to in the 2nd inaugural address? Please don't tell me you confuse it with Mohammed,
     
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    Doesn't refute in the least what I said.
     
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    Just shows you don't know a thing about faith outside of Church.
     
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    In the 1700's, a great number of immigrants sold themselves into servitude to pay for their passage. After the agreed to time period, say 5 or 8 years, the man would then be a free man. Parents would sell their children to masters under the guise of an eventual apprenticeship. In colonial America, everyone had a lord they had to bow to.
     
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    I know a con man when I see one. Oh wait, all prechers are con men. Why is it I wonder, that there tends to be a direct correlation between adherance to an Evangelical mindset, and fawning over Trump, the opposition to abortion, and the denial science.
     
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    I grew up under the crushing weight of faith. As an adult I do without, and I'm quite happy.
     
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    I agree 100%, and I am an agnostic that leans atheist.
     
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    Completely refuted what you said.
     
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    But surely putting down a prayer mat will disrupt the class.
     
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    I agree, the only financial support an illegal should get is a free bus or plane ticket home.
     
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    Where was this attitude prominent? Why do you single out America? We were a wilderness nation. Special circumstance prevailed. Don't you think America overcame an awful lot, sometimes sacrificing blood to overcome? Many other nations still practice these forms of slavery. Socialism could be described as a form of slavery.
     
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    Because a sincere faith in God reflects a value to life. A child in the womb, with it's own blood type and unique DNA is an individual life. Those that worship at the alter of "science" often excuse the taking of that life. It is a judgmental and callous statement you make when you say "all prechers" are con men. You just hate our President.
     
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    There is no denial, Religions designed to do "works" in order to be pleasing to God can be a crushing weight. I've never been involved in one of those but I have friends that have. The wounds are deep and real yet they find liberation. Glad you are happy. Try and stay humble.
     
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    You have my sympathy for the pain you feel, but none for the choices you have made to inflict it on yourself.
     
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    The Rahl....why don't you display your genius and explain to anyone who cares about it how America would arrive to own a Constitution without first declaring Independence from a tyrannical King James with the expression Liberty is an unalienable right given by God opposed to something granted by Kings and government. Com'on....impress everyone.
     
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    People never lost the right to pray in school. The so called 'ban' on school prayer is simply the schools not leading organized prayers anymore or forcing people to pray. Individuals can pray all they want.
     
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    Science has saved millions of lives, lot of them children and at risk fetus, through research and prenatal care. Prayer? Not so much. I guarantee that the money I've given to Doctors Without Borders has saved more lives of children than the lifestyles of the rich and famous TV preacher squad.

    Want to save children? Take all the money and time spent on anti-abortion crap and spend it on prenatal care and incubators for the wanted children who make it past the third trimester.
     
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    Satan is from the Hebrew, hai-Shaitan, "the opposer'" It is an office, a title, like Inspector or Governor. God not only knows and approves of the devil, he appointed him
     
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    The Liberties you speak of were only for land-owning white males at the time of the Declaration and the Constitution - so if rights are "God given" what happened to the "unalienable" rights of over 50% of the population? Weren't they taken away, and later given back by the laws of men? Sorry - not buying the whole "God given" thingy here.
     

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