Trump and religious liberty -- Militant atheists have met their match with our president

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  1. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    Few politicians in Washington, even Republicans, have ever defended our Christian heritage on the national stage as fiercely as President Trump. His executive order affirming the religious liberty of public school students is just the latest example.

    For the first time in nearly two decades, the order updates federal guidance to better protect students’ rights to engage in prayer and other forms of religious expression. Under the new rules, schools must certify every year that they do not have policies that restrict constitutionally-protected religious rights, such as the freedom to pray or read religious texts on school grounds. Schools that maintain non-compliant policies would lose their federal funding.

    This is a big win for religious freedom advocates”



    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-religious-liberty-atheists-mike-huckabee




    I think it to be a good thing that the President is an outspoken advocate for religious liberty. For years atheists and secular progressives have been openly moving to eliminate or destroy these liberties and rights Americans have had since our founding. It’s good that at last we have a leader pushing back to protect religious liberty.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    It is about time that the great evil that is secular progressivism is confronted head on and that the rights of believers to believe and to act on those beliefs anywhere any time in our daily lives from home to church to school to work, and to the public square. It’s time progressives be made to respect our rights as believers rather than trying to stamp them out and trample upon them.
     
  3. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    It might help a bit here for you to lay out exactly HOW do atheists and secular progressives have prevented you from practicing your religion.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    There is a link to the rest of the article. Check it out and you will see.
     
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    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    Mike Huckabee is an asshat.

    No wonder you quote Fox News. GET OUT OF YOUR FREAKING ECHO CHAMBERS!!!
     
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    This is why we are;

    One Nation Under God.
     
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    not according to the constitution
     
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    Keep in mind this is an OPINION piece my by Mike The Asshat Huckabee, not an actual report, so the incidents he cites aren't even backed up. He is presenting only his side of the argument.

    I have no idea how old you are, but I can tell you from both personal experience and actual history that Evangelicals have always had a predominant say in politics and American culture, so much so that yes, in the 70's they started cracking down on the separation of church and state in public institutions. If you give Evangelicals an inch, they will take a mile. They always have and always will. Their called Evangelicals for a reason. They believe as part of their faith their mission is to convert the heathen, whether they like it or not.

    I personally don't care if you want to worship an imaginary god in the sky. It's none of my business, but by the same token, I don't want to be proselytized outside of church. Why is that concept so hard for conservatives to understand?
     
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    No we are not.
     
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    That’s the exact response I would expect from people named Satan or Lucifer. However, everyday just before the Senate Impeachment Trial begins all 100 US Senators rise with their hands over their hearts and pledge their allegiance as one nation under God to the United States of America’s flag.
     
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    religious fanatics think Trump is their idea of a real Christian

    students already have the right to pray and read their religious texts, some on the right are not happy about Muslims doing this, but they have the right

    what they do not have a right to do is push their religion on other peoples children
     
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    It's called tradition, doesn't make it anymore true.

    And everytime I see someone pick on my avatar name, I know exactly where they stand on their superstitious mythology.

    FYI, Satan and Lucifer are not the same thing.
     
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    the Money God.... in God we trust
     
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    Yea, murder and homicide differ the same.
    Interpretations of a similar term in the Hebrew Bible, translated in the King James Version as "Lucifer", led to a Christian tradition of applying the name Lucifer, and its associated stories of a fall from heaven, to Satan.
     
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    what they do not realise is it was Christian infighting that took religious propaganda out of our schools as they did not want different versions of Christianity taught to their children, Atheists never had the votes to pass that without Christians
     
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    Well, since you read the Wiki, then you now know the two are not the same thing from a literal perspective, and in fact, points to the most obvious mistranslation of the Hebrew texts, because the term Lucifer is strictly Latin.
     
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    the ONLY time Dirty Donald ever enters any church or house of worship is for a photo op.He has no religion, worshipping only his own graven image.
     
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    I'm glad your fantasy is that he somehow "conquered" a threat that was, itself, a fantasy to begin with. He was always the master of the snowflake victim narrative.
     
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    Which English, Italian and Spanish are derivatives of.
     
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    The phrase "under God" was not part of the original Pledge of Allegiance It was added by a resolution of Congress in 1954 during the cold war to emphasize the differenc between the US and the "godless" Communists.
     
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    expressing our faith is what they attack. I...don't need to practice.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and that was a good move. It echoed our Declaration of Independence...... the reason we exist as a nation!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you know this?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your sarcasm does not cut the mustard with our history!
     
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    It’s hilarious and very sad that Donald Trump, a virtual poster boy for the Seven Deadly Sins, is now the hero of Some Christians.
     

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