China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs

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  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Stop with the BS semantics, it's a fact China makes our drugs because they use slave labor and we have allowed it instead of fight it, like Trump has. You have blasted Trump for fighting it. Don't act like you haven't railed on the trade war and blasted Trump for trying to fix it. You can get a test kit, hell NY is opening up drive through testing as we speak. Bottom line though you didn't bother to answer any question I asked you because if you did honestly you would admit that Trump fighting China on trade and making us less dependent by reducing regulation and corp taxes is exactly the best way not to rely on China and allow them to threaten what they did in the OP.
     
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    Oh now it's Trump's fault China makes our drugs? It's Trump's fault our government raised corp taxes so high that it forced companies to move to China? It's Trumps fault we didn't have equal tariffs with China? You dems are funny, you love you some communism and have zero problem with China using slave labor and tariffs to rape us all the while offering corporations cheap labor to move over there. You have zero problem raising business taxes to the point where it's cheaper to produce in China and ship it over here but then cry it's Trump's fault for trying to level the playing field. It's hilarious watching you guys spin like a top trying to play both sides.
     
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    Trump has been in office 3 years. Why has he not addressed the issue? I tell you what: He has pointed out the importance of homemade steel because we need it for wars. However, I am not sure he cares about drugs (and MAGA hats) being made abroad -- until now.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Where I DO have a problem is watching a buffoon wave a red cape in front of a bull, then fall down on his voluminous ass...
     
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    Good god he has been for over a year and you've been gripping about it every time it's brought up. Now your projecting your opinion on what Trump cares about which is more bs conjecture that has zero facts.
     
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    Your problem is your seeing things that aren't real obviously.
     
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    Trump cares about Trump...

    End of story..
     
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    Couldn't Trump have just told the drug companies to make drugs in the US? Is that all it takes?
     
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    You care about structuring your opinion to blast Trump. See how easy that is.
     
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    This is not Venezuela or Cuba, good grief no wondering you post some of the stuff you do. We live in a free country, you raise my taxes I can move my business.
     
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    Die from a hoax? That trump said would be at zero cases by...now?
     
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    Maybe we could get some illegals to do it.
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    Good grief, why do you think Trump was elected in the first place? People have gotten sick and tired of seeing their jobs shipped overseas while others get rich in the process thanks to corrupt politicians, greedy corporate executives, and opportunistic globalist shills. Now that China is showing their true colors by threatening to deny us medicines hopefully more people are waking up to the real threat we face from that evil communist dictatorship.
     
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    Yep you got it!
     
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    Trust me I know, I own a business. That's why lowering corp taxes and regulation in some industry is essential to becoming less reliant on China, creates more jobs, creates more tax income long term due to more business and employees.
     
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    Sure, then why did he give these "corrupt" corporate executives a huge corporate tax break? As reward for offshoring our jobs? He has done nothing to address the problem where it needs to be addressed, i.e. make it less profitable to offshore the jobs. The tariffs with China will make the corporations just move the jobs from China to the next low-wage and no-regulation country.
     
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    Those jobs ain't coming back as long as we pay way more.
    Don't you shop around for good prices for stuff you need in your business?
     
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    Ofcourse and exactly why to lower taxes. Do you really think American companies want to deal with China or Mexico? Every company wants to be in the United States but in a lot of cases it's cost prohibitive. You would be surprised how many companies have popped up in the last two years because of the reduced tax rate.
     
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    This is part of the bottom lind of the problem!

    Supposedly, freedom from regulation and lowered taxes were supposed to have business flourish and make America a "Golden Age"!

    Instead, Trump and Republican policies to give theoretically business and the wealthy money "to grow America" instead has had business owners simply do massive buybacks of stock and make even larger cash accumulations.

    China still holds the reins for the all critical infrastructure for medicine and technology, and the only effects have allowed to double and triple pharma costs to consumers with NO efforts to "onshore" our critical technologies.

    The only effort has been for Trump to supposedly to have some steel come to America, which hardly worked and there are multiple sources to buy steel anyway, the domestic steel industry will require subsidy to be be competitive.
     
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    Examples, please?

    Companies don't pop up because of lower tax rates. Companies pop up because they have an innovative and marketable product, with which they can make profit.
     
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    He just believes in submitting to his rapist.
     
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    Actually that spurt was before the tax cuts.

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    Biden's been on it since he declared his candidacy. He's China's guy.
     
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    Actually a working majority of both parties and their intellectual establishments thought that for 30 years.

    And counting. They still believe that.
     
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    Could you source the corporate tax breaks for offshoring?
     
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