China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs

Yeah, my brain works like that. It's an association kinda thing. I see "German" and my sister comes to mind.

 

Seems Donald Trump was right when he said we should become less dependent on Chinese goods.

 

What the hell does that have to do with Trump, he didn't let them take our industry? He didn't bend over let them tariff us to the point our business had to move to china. Trump is the only one that's had the guts to challenge them and guess what they responded positively. Your argument is confusing, you're blaming Trump because China owns the supply chain, but he didn't do it and is actually fighting to become less dependent on them.

 

Well China is merely proving Trumps point, it is dangerous to outsource your manufacturing to the point that America and other western countries have

 

Das Schwester.

 

There will never be a replacement for Chinese imports until the American people are willing to accept a lower standard of living in order to make wages cheap enough for the corporate masters to still make obscene amounts of money while producing their products here. Trump, for all his buffoonery, probably knows that. You should too.

 

So there is no special tax cut for outsourcing or moving overseas?

 

So a country that steals IP from our corporations and uses slave labor to undercut manufacturing, is our friend? Good show defending the indefensible!!’

 

Correct. Antifa in power.

 

It doesn't mean we need to just roll over for every market. It's not an all or nothing thing unless one is just trying to make some kind of idiotic political point then it is more "orange man bad" than reality.

 

In a way it kind of does. If we are unwilling to make the sacrifices necessary to be self-sufficient, then we will always be reliant on other countries, including China.

 

We need to be willing to make some of those sacrifices. We also need to quit ignoring the theft of American patents and copyrights. We also need to balance out the taxes and tariffs we pay to other countries. It took a lot of years and a lot of presidents for it to get this screwed up. I can accept partial reliance but not 100% reliance.

 

Trump has been warning America of the dangers of China for decades.

 

jeez did china put a gun to our head and force US corporation to do business with them or maybe the corporation is just greedy and want to maximize the profit. if we want move manufacture back either isolate ourself put 100% tariff on everything or pay cheap wage for US labor in manufacturing or hire illegal to do the jobs. people blame china they never seem to blame the corporation who is willing move it to oversea. and the same corporation is making huge profits in china. boeing sign $200 billion with china few years back for boeing planes, guess whos is making it.

 

Good points. We have outsourced our manufacturing base to pad the pockets of the international financiers and Oligopolies that pull the Establishment strings.

Corona is nothing compared to what various nations states have hiding in their storage lockers.

 

What politicians say - and what they do - are often not the same. Trump has done very little to address the systemic issues that lead to outsourcing of our manufacturing base.

 

Since the dummies were so eager to have China make everything it might be a very good thing for us if China did cut off the drugs. I hope they do. It might force the dummies to make critical things in America and not in enemy countries.

 

How do you know they aren't contaminated?

 

What will the dummies do when we have a shooting war with China?

 

Yes, the IP theft of China has to be addressed. And, yes, many presidents supported free trade, including Clinton, but it started with Reagan. Free trade is really a GOP philosophy, because it is an extension to the free market, which, in their eyes, can do no wrong. That's why the GOP never punished corporations for offshoring, they rather give them tax breaks, like Trump. The idea is that corporations SHOULD seek out the lowest cost of production, no matter what the cost to society. Does that sound familiar?

For me, what difference does it make whether I am dependent on a Chinese CEO or an American CEO to provide my meds, neither of them have my best interest at heart, their ONLY interest is to maximize profit, the good old capitalist way. And if you think the US government can force US corporations to provide meds to the needy at cost, but not Chinese corporations, you are mistaken.

Note that I have long been an opponent of offshoring, but for other reasons, namely that it erodes US wages. The equilibrium state of the two economies is that of equal wages. That means the Chinese wages have to come up, or American wages have to come down. Both of those things are happening.

 

Do you think someone it's an issue we should ignore, as in do nothing?

 

I can't make any sense out of this response - does not seem to relate to my post.

 

Do you think we should ignore the dominance that China holds over our manufacturing capabilities when it comes to vital products like drugs and steel?

 

It is losing this dominance that my post is criticizing. Trump can not be blamed for this - as this happened long prior.

While he pays plenty of lip services to this issue - he has not addressed some of the major systemic issues which are at the root of the problem.

 

Then all that caterwauling by the Democrats about a "trade war" isn't about anything? USMCA is about nothing? What is the left complaining about then?