Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

Like I said, it is debatable. And I was referencing all of the countries you listed, but specifically in regards to Italy...

We have roughly 5x the number of infections and roughly 2x the number of deaths. On a per capita basis, we will likely pass Italy in terms of infections within the next 2-3 days. As for the mortality per capita, I would like to believe that we will never reach the same level as Italy because that would mean that we lost another ~110,000 Americans.

 

According to the CDC the incubation period is between 2 - 14 days. So my statement is accurate.

For example Italy has not been hit harder than the US ??

 

So my statement is accurate.

 

So with regard to posting on an internet discussion forum my statements are accurate.

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https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-covid-19-highly-contagious-days-symptoms

 

...if that's the lesson you want to learn from our efforts to get you to add nuance and context to your claim, then go for it.

 

And again my statements have been accurate. The original claim is that it was all made up. Where is the nuance ???

 

Cases per 100,000.
Order highest to lowest:
Spain
Belgium
Italy
U.S.
France
U.K.
Netherlands
Germany
Iran




Deaths per 100,000.
Order highest to lowest:
Belgium
Spain
Italy
France
U.K.
Netherlands
U.S.
Germany
Iran




(Source: Johns Hopkins)

 

No. Nothing you said was accurate. I showed you the inaccuracies and provided links to prove that you were wrong.

The important point: you still haven't given any reason why you think the US system gives "superior" care compared with other countries.

 

Nothing you said was accurate, so yeah - you made it up.

 

Not two weeks. You gave a specific number, not a window.
Then you compounded your error by equating incubation period with the period during which someone is contagious.

 

Again the statements are accurate.

The US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare.

 

So what. Two weeks is an accurate statement and is the length of the standard quarantine period. And people are contagious during the incubation period.

My statements are accurate.

 

When wrong go to personal attacks. The sure sign of lack of argument.

 

Smart cookie!

 

Per capita spending is not equivalent to quality.
And no, nothing you said was accurate.

 

No, it shows real wages have increased (before COVID-19) just 7.5% in 41 years.



And that's for full time employees.

Real income has hardly moved in four decades. Many workers, especially older workers without more up-to-date skills, have seen their wages drop.

I didn't start anywhere because I didn't create the chart. Such charts tend to start around 1980 because real wages were increasing before then.

 

And while we are comparing, some eminently simple numbers.

Here the current figures for the top 27-28 countries, in descending order of number of confirmed COVID-19 cases, from about 20 minutes ago:





We are circa 11,400 cases away from 3.1 million already.

You can see that worldwide, the calculated death rate (exact number of deaths / exact number of confirmed cases) is currently 6.89%.

So, let's see how it looks for some other countries. I will only do three, the rest of you can look at others for yourself:



The USA: 57043 / 1013290 = 0.05629 = 5.63% death rate, lower than worldwide
Mexico: 1434 / 15529 = 0.09234 = 9.23% death rate, higher than worldwide

Sweden: 2355 / 19621 = 0.12002 = 12.00%, slightly less than double the worldwide death rate, more than double the US death rate.
The population of Sweden = 10,100,000 people. 119,500 tests administered / 10,100,000 people = 11.83% of the population has been tested.

If we assume that 75% of all Swedes will be infected, 70% of them will be asymptomatic, but 30% will have symptoms and test positive, then:

10,100,000 * 0.75 = 7,575,000 infected. 7,575,000 * 0.30 = 2,272,500 confirmed (with time) COVID-19 cases. 2,272,500 * 0.12 (death rate) = 272,700 deaths in Sweden.

It's simple math. Sweden grew +695 cases today. That means a growth rate of 3.67%. So, the growth rate is momentarily logistical, not exponential, but this is no guarantee for the next weeks. Wait and see what the "herd immunity" experiment in Sweden brings. But again, 12% is a VERY HIGH death rate.

-Stat

 

I think it would improve efficiency if men were required to wear pantyhose. It would certainly minimize the number of people who’d want to be associated with them.

 

Sure it is. Why was Italy cutting off ventilator access to those under the age of 60 ??

 

And the standard of living has skyrocketed. What can be bought with those wages ???

 

Agreed regarding the point about becoming a burden. It does put it into a different light.

 

Why are we wasting taxpayer money on the Blue Angels? Most health-care workers on the East Coast (where the Blue Angels are flying) are working right now, they won't be able to see it.

This is just craziness. Anybody know how much it costs to put on such a show?

You wanna put on a parade? Do it AFTER the event is over, to celebrate!

Who in the hell gave the order to do this?

Did we throw victory parades before WWII was won?

Really, this **** is eminently stupid.

 

The curve is flattened. That is a victory.

 

If spending on health care is equivalent to quality you must support Bernie Sanders.
I didn’t realize you were a socialist.