Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

Sweden - as of TODAY - is considered the worst affect nation of Coronavirus. In the last 9 weeks, there have been 3.743 confirmed deaths of Coronavirus in Sweden and neither the calvary nor our own superhero, Greta Thunberg courageous enough to save us. We're really F*cked.

https://samtiden.nu/2020/05/sverige...LMfKrCMOwCOZGyIs9my5gKounOFQyA2qdgY9hfRhEvIF8

 

Hey, Deri, we have a clean-up on aisle 5!!!

 

Just the mention of Greta pops your cork, huh?

 

Adjusted for population, we would have to have over 2,000,000 deaths to equal the Spanish Flu tally.

 

The study that you presented about the lethality rate notes that ~1.3% of the symptomatic are lethal and that makes it far above the 0.1% of the seasonal flu. And we have all started to see the results of serology tests that put the infection rate far higher and the mortality rate far lower because there are so many asymptomatic individuals who were exposed to the virus and never showed any symptoms.

And to that end, I just read this article which estimates the asymptomatic rate of Covid-19 at around 25-50%.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus

This article from PBS, written much more recently, found similar results with ranges from 10%-42%.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/5-questions-about-asymptomatic-covid-19-cases-answered

So I was curious about comparing that rate to the seasonal flu. Just how common is asymptomatic infection amongst the seasonal flu and I have a hard time pinning down the results.

For example, the first google result to this question returns the answer from this study:

https://www.jwatch.org/fw108600/2014/03/17/most-flu-asymptomatic

On the other hand, this meta-study, which is the second google result returns this result:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586318/

 

A) The Spanish Flu "tally" was the result after the entirety of the pandemic and we are only ~2 months into the current Pandemic
B) Comparing Covid-19 pandemic to the single worst pandemic from the last 150 years tells you everything you need to know about the severity of this virus.

 

Thank you for those links.

Even if the asymptomatic were as high as 50% that would still mean a death rate of 0.65% unfortunately.

 

It also thereby estimates a 98.7% chance at survival. So when we say "more deadly", we need to put that in proper context. It's almost impossible for a healthy person to die from the flu, it's more probable but still less likely that a healthy person dies from coronavirus.

 

It does seem to confirm that close contact(AKA: Large gatherings) is how this virus is able to spread. This makes "opening up" difficult because a lot of day-to-day operations by necessity are large gatherings. I'll take as an example sports(because I'm a sports fan and I don't wanna sound dumb.)

You would think theoretically that it would be possible to separate the seating by 6 feet to accommodate, etc. The new lines drawn
to physically distance people in lines for concessions. But this would be a MASSIVE logistical undertaking(the seating in particular) these stadiums are already built in a manner, and in order to revamp the stadium in that way, you'd have to revamp every...single...section(of thousands of seats.)

That's why they've discussed and planned with no fans. A hell of a lot easier.

 

There's a lot of data to go around, but I largely agree with using this statistic to help assuage people of any concern that this virus is going to kill the human race (to the extent that those people even exist).

But, there are additional data points that need to be considered when someone tries to use the 98.7% survival rating as a method for unreasonably dismissing the threat of this virus. Death is not the only harm. For those who survive a bad experience, there are likely going to be significant impacts including permanent and semi-permanent damage to the lungs and heart.

 

Also, there is something to be said about weight gain during the coronavirus. I'm freaking 203 right now(I'm 5'10). I normally am between 180-190. So I've gained anywhere from 13-23 pounds over the last two months and it's deplorable to me lol. If I were an running back, the weight gain would help with explosiveness. Unfortunately, all it does for me is give me a belly gut that just looks bad. I hope in the next months, the gyms open back up and I'm able to work this off like mad.

 

Didn't read the cite from the CDC run by your goofy hero, President Clorox?

If you don't call me "Clarence," I won't call you "Dumbass."

 

Will we need to find possible carriers? I sure hope not.

 

Who doesn't want to believe that?

 

Bundesliga started again, Germany's premier football league. They quarantined the players, have them regularly tested and no spectators. The games lack the fire and emotion, no athmosphere. Germany is very well known for its fanatic fan clubs, packing the stadiums, practiced choreography and so on.
Dortmund's Yellow Wall is special. That Stadium packs 80,000 and is sold out every game.
Its a different kind of football they are playing right now.

 

What are the Hools doing for entertainment these days?

 

I love it when laymen attempt to cite law inaptly/incorrectly based on Google or whatever their Fake News tells them. You'll get the applicable law right one day, Perry Mason!

Hint: Think "landmark Civil Rights cases," and when you figure it out, if you ever do, you'll near instantly also know as a matter of fact that you and yours are on the WRONG side of the prevailing U.S. Civil Rights law, right there with George Wallace, Pointy White Hats, people who wave the Confederate Flag... that's YOU. So ironic, so much fun.

Protip: The raw statutes, rules, orders, etc. are almost -never- the complete legal "answer," not even close, and rest assured, the COVID1984 Viral Moral Panic of 2020 (now concluded other than for obvious shills) is not one of those rare exceptions. Very common armchair lawyer mistake.

 

Ähm, no.

 

Actually, I find that "opening up" is eminently possible if there are absolutely no Covidiots out there, for instance, if every single person really does keep physical distance, really does wear a mask, refrains from activities that spit out a huge amount of aerosols all at once, washes his/her hands, etc.

In other words, if every person were to act as if he/she were infected and would want to protect others from infection, I think there are a ton of things we could be doing right now.

But the key is that EVERY person must do it instead of these ****ing idiots out there screaming about their so-called 1st amendment rights to go and infect other people.

I mean, really, at some time, when enough people are dead, maybe people will realize that this was never political to begin with and those Covidiots are quite literally spitting in the faces of millions upon millions of healthcare workers who are busting their asses in order to save lives.

After three months of watching this idiocy, my patience with Covidiots is now gone. They are not helping, but rather, hurting.

 

Yeah, it's kind of like sex without sex.

Blaaaaaaah

 

Å, that's nice.

 

The number of US-Covid-19 deaths now stands at 94,507, +974 of which have happened until now today:





Also, with about 7 hours left in the day on the East Coast, a number of states have no yet reported anything or fully reported yet, for instance, NY has not yet reported deaths. PA has not reported anything at all. So, the US deaths is going to go way over +1,000 today when all is said and done, with Wednesday likely to be one of the two peak days in the week, unfortunately.

 

Is that where you get your ideas about our legal system? Do you have an urge to jump up and confess?

Are you really this clueless? I cited what the CDC uses as its statutory authority to quarantine people. Fortunately for you, they don't quarantine people for making stupid comments.

Babbling nonsense.

 

I don't know for sure. The beginning of humility is the willingness to admit what one does not know. However, the fact that China is going to do this tells me that they either a.) already know something or b.) are scared that the disease is spreading like wildfire again.

I sure as hell hope that we won't need to find possible carriers. But in a way, and I know it sound perverse, is however not intended to be so, China is probably doing us a favor by re-testing a city, this time on a complete scale. This may give insight about what may need to be done in other cities of the world. I am thinking especially of Paris, London, of course NY, Chicago, Buenos Ares, Mexico City, Tokyo, Kagoschima, Seoul, Moscow, Rome.... just to name a few....

 

And in the time it took to write that posting, the number of daily COVID-19 deaths in the USA just rose to: +1,045. That makes for 94,578 total deaths in the USA from this horrible virus.