Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

Shingles = Herpes family. It hits when you do not expect it and is missery. Mine caused by stress lasted 2 f....n years. Left serious scaring on my right chest and back. Got vaccinated the moment it was possible.
The vaccine is just a suppressor. Every time the weather changes, every time there is some stress, the scares get tight, read and itch, just saying " don't forget me, I am still around "
One question, since the virus is so new, can it behave like the chicken pox in young and younger people?
That would be misserable.

 

Yes, the virus goes by different names depending upon the symptoms.

https://www.britishskinfoundation.org.uk/shingles-herpes-zoster#:~:text=Shingles is a painful blistering,varicella when it causes chickenpox.

I don't think that it is "new" because I had chickenpox as a child and then shingles as an adolescent.

And yes, technically you could give someone chickenpox from the infectious rash blisters.

 

The state of Florida just reported +2,581 new C19 cases, making for the largest case-load thus far. Yesterday, 2020-06-012, Florida reported +1,902 C-19 cases.
Very likely that when all is said and done for the day today, Florida will be no. 2 in daily C19 cases, behind California.

 

I think it's far worse than you describe. Trump has deliberately undermined efforts to contain and then suppress COVID-19 by attacking governors trying to get their state populations to cooperate with social distancing. His behavior is despicable.

 

we have crossed over 7.8 million COVID-19 cases.
430,000 people across the world have now died, 117,000 of them are dead US-Americans.

 

Major spike today in Lousiana:

Lousiana, 2020-06-012: +523 new C19 cases
Lousiana, 2020-06-013: +1,288 new C19 cases
Ratio: 2.5 to 1, or 2.5-fold increase

Major spike and then, plateau today:
Alabama, 2020-06-012: +865 new C19 cases
Alabama, 2020-06-013: +891 new C19 cases

Alabama, one week ago, on 2020-06-005:



I already mentioned Florida earlier on this thread.

And more importantly, this is happening on a Saturday, when historically the numbers have gone down. That is not going to be the case today.

 

You dont think that beefing up the WHO could do the trick?

 

I said in an earlier response to you that the failure of a government's response does not speak to the seriousness of this virus.

Containment is the ideal response. We blew that. Afterwards the only thing left is mitigation. IMO, we blew that, too. That, however, doesn't speak to the seriousness of this virus, either.

You speak of the trillions of dollars spent and the transfer of wealth. Yep, that happened. You will, remember, though, that just prior to the outbreak our stock market was crashing and the Fed injected $1.5 trillion into it. That is on top of the hundreds of billions injected into the REPO market since last September. The virus provided a nice smokescreen to continue that policy. Make of it what you will, but again, that does not speak to the seriousness of this virus.

As to it being seasonal, we can all see that that isn't true. Cases and deaths are rising as we open back up.

Finally, about the victims. We all know who has been dying and we all know some of that was easily avoidable. We're also finding out that this virus may well be a blood infection along with a respiratory infection. It's dangerous and can leave lasting damage for young and old alike.

There are about 50 million Americans 65 and older. Most have some existing health issue, to one degree or another. Even if you were to say that only those people are at risk, that's a lot of folks.

Bottom line. I agree with you *somewhat*. What I don't agree with is conflating our response to the seriousness of this virus. Both are stand-alone realities. Since containment has failed and we really can't just keep the economy shut down, the only thing left is to do what we can to keep all of us as safe as possible and not do stupid things. Stores are limiting the amount of people in, plexiglass screens are up, people wear masks and use hand sanitizer. All smart things. Concerts, sporting events, political rallies, protests and riots are all stupid things.

Now, I'm done getting off track in this thread.

 

Bunch of states have increases, all those protest and rioting is taking it's toll now.

 

'Trying to get their state populations to cooperate with social distancing'....by banning sunflower seeds! You know damn well as I do that these state governors abused their powers, then ignored their own edicts. We need to stop blaming Trump and start looking in the mirror, our state government leadership has failed, completely.

 

Of course, I'm basing my observation on the usual pattern of cases in which flu precipitates infarction. In susceptible individuals (and there is almost always a susceptibility in some form ... we know that given older and 'less healthy' individuals recover fully from COVID and other flu, with no residual issues), the increased burden upon all body systems while fighting the virus, is the equivalent of being physically exhausted. Add a sudden burst of activity or stress to that equation, and it's easy to see why this happens.

 

Yes, you definitely could have used a stronger leader. Our is a religious rightist, but he stepped up and did what the nation needed, not what he was comfortable with. Mind you, he tried to keep it sweet for his businessy pals ... but the public were suitably outraged by the lack of strong and unified response, so he put his big boy pants on. And despite my atheism, I suspect his need to be more Jesus-like played a part. Probably the only time I'm likely to be pleased we have a religious leader

Meantime, I'm still not convinced that either side of the political divide can do these things better, and my own leader is a good example of that. It's more about how strong they are, and how willing their citizenry is to join the fight.

 

I have no idea what you're talking about.

We need to do what they've done in British Columbia--bend the curve and flatten it.



They did the squashing without a stay-at-home order. What did they do? They shut down schools and many types of businesses likely to spread COVID-19. We can do better.

Any violation of edicts by themselves is separate from the validity of the edicts. I'm not interested in any argument that would reject the edict because the pols promulgating it are hypocrites.

Closing or modifying the operation of businesses likely to contribute to the spread of COVID-19 is fully justified. We can discuss whether or not the owners should be compensated. I have trouble with hard stay-at-home orders for everyone, but I see nothing wrong with insisting people distance themselves in public.

Trump has utterly failed to lead by pressuring states to continue closing some types of businesses until their new case numbers drop. BTW, BC kept open many businesses including a paper mill churning out a single-source special product used to make surgical masks by U.S. manufacturers. I think someone told Trump that it would be a good idea to let 3M continue supplying Canada with masks.

 

Leading is top down. The President is the top, the governors the second layer.
If the President does not lead, than the Governors have to do their thing.
Atacking Governors because they have to do their thing, ain't leadership. If you do not take leadership and the responsibility which comes with it, than be quiet and let others do your job.
Essential businesses used their special status, to sell non essential goods, to attract customers. Or local hamburger joint sell everything from bleach to toilet paper. Ain't right. It is not why you are essential or not.
Wall Mart sell everything and used its grocery department to be essential. Because of it they could sell clothing, shoes and naturally seeds.
Clothing stores had to close, while Wal Mart stayed open.
Wal Mart is not a nursery, its a 3 month side show.
I can understand what the governor did. She actually supported small business. I liked it, still do.

 

Na, its not the protest jet, far to early, you will see that in a week.
If you look at the states, besides Arizona, they are coastal states, beaches.
Arizona, tja, its Tucson and Phoenix, were were they during memorial day, the lakes, packed, like Powell, beaches.
How long ago ?
Get the drift ?

 

I am not saying Covid isn't contagious, but I just don't think a mask and these extremes are going to prevent people from getting it. And, I don't think people will be getting it in the open air at parks and restaurants. I think big cities have the Covid problem because those cities have high concentration of condos and apartment living with recycled air. Now, in Orlando, it is mostly suburbs and housing unlike Miami or New York which is mostly condos/apartments. No mask is going to stop recycled air in those buildings. I do think there is no way people can catch this virus hanging out at a park or walking down the street. That is mass media paranoia in my opinion.

 

Oooooooohhhhhh
Forgot one thing. The Navajo Res, which is mainly in Arizona, which used to be the Hot Spot in Arizona, was on a complete shut down during MD. Every business was closed, even gas stations. Friday till Monday morning. If you want to get to the lakes, from Phoenix or Tucson, you have to through the Res.

Get the drift ?

 

Everyone is essential in this country, or no one is essential. That's the whole point. If stores sell multiple goods, they shouldn't be barred from selling those goods. In fact, it makes it easier to swallow shutting down so-called "non-essential" businesses, if the essential ones can pick up the slack.

"Oh....OH!" Yeah, the Democratic Party is **** for brains in the financial sector. It's why liberal cities continue to be challenged financially despite their political rule(or shall I say, because of it.)

 

This is pure wishful thinking.

The virus is currently going nuts in warm/hot places, and at the same time has almost gone from New Zealand and Australia .. where it's now winter. And yes, it's cold here - we've had a few snowfalls already.

 

No reason apart from that this virus is not behaving in a seasonal way. New Zealand plunged into winter ... just as they announced the country is now COVID free. Brazil, Florida, Texas, California, Arizona ... not so much.

 

I'll say it again to back you up:

NEW ZEALAND. Here's what their winter looks like:

 

No argument on that front. He has been a disaster, upon a disaster.

 

The virus can be beaten down by center-right governments (Australia), leftwing governments (New Zealand, British Columbia). Trump screwed up the United States.

 

It looks like the early openers are starting to move. Let's see what the next few days bring.




We persistently cling to the 5% positive numbers.

A little bump in Germany, but still very low compared to the US.

 

I always heard chirpies was a canarial disease but it was tweetable.