Trump Just Admitted on Live Television He Will 'Terminate' Social Security and Medicare If Reelected

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    um that was temporary...it’s still not in affect. hence why the president had to issue this EO. He’s hoping Congress will act and make this permanent so employers and employees won’t have to. repay the tax after the holiday.

    The dems seemed to favor it in the past so hope do my they don’t continue to obstruct and play politics with the chinese virus
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are no reserves. Just IOU's that the government tells you are reserves. IOUs, in the form of non-marketable intra-governmental Treasury bonds which are the equivalent of signed, uncashed checks against the general fund.

    You don't pay into anything. All the money that comes from your paycheck goes to the general fund and the Congress appropriates enough money every year to fund current SS/Medicare needs and then spends the rest on other things. It has been that way since 1937.
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Government doesn't decide the value of money. The only thing it can do, like any criminal gang, is force you to use what it calls money instead of actual money. And, then you can grovel before it's majestic altars that it doesn't create hyperinflation during your lifetime.
     
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    I was talking about the one in 2009. It was passed by Congress.
     
  5. struth

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    yep i know...so the dems have no reason to object to one today. Why are they obstructing???
     
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    They aren’t. They passed a stimulus. It’s the Senate that failed.
     
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    no the senate had a plan as well, much less but the house wouldn’t compromise at all...even on something like this tax holiday..the gop agreed but then they still wouldn’t stop obstructing...they wanted billions to bail lo it failed liberal run state govts that have massive issues because of years of dem policies...absolutely nothing to do with the chinese virus
     
  8. Yulee

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    Actually House did offer to come down. The Senate played politics and wouldn’t budge.

    Red states are actually struggling worse.
     
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  9. struth

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    red states are not begging for a bailout

    no nancy p did not the gop gave up a lot to try and get nancy to the table....nancy’s only changed her tune after trump did what he said he’d do if she continued to obstruct and hold americans hostage
     
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    I don't intend to do that, nor advocate that anyone else do so. But we need to be realists about Trump.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Five months will have a minor — probably insignificant impact on the program — cutting the taxes or termination of the taxes like he suggested — would however.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except he did, the direct quote has been posted a few times in this very thread.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope they just dissolve all taxes.
    We need to burn down and start over — I will take a year or two vacation once the flames fan out.
     
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    that seems little silly...if we could recover from the obama/biden regime without doing the we can recover from the china virus
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you don’t have any, just parroting the “fake news” even though you cannot disprove it. Sad.

    You should change your name, it is no longer fitting.
     
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    he didn’t make the suggestion. He did a five months holiday that he’d like to make permanent so that we don’t have to pay it back but it requires dems to put the american people’s needs over their desire to play politics
     
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    We could absolutely recover from COVID, just like numerous other nations have.
    We don’t seem to be recovering from the trump virus and his supporters however.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh so that’s what he meant when he said he was going to permanently cut payroll taxes?

    I am glad y’all have trump translators so you can tell us what he really meant all the time.
     
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    False. It’s well documented that House went down to 2 Trillion. Senate wouldn't come up to that.
     
  20. Yulee

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    I would plaster that part of the speech every evening and remind folks where SS money comes from.

    Shocked its not a campaign commercial already.
     
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    Open forum, just used your shtuff as a catalyst is all..

    Thanks!
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt it will cause many to change their vote but it might cause them not to show up at all. It was the same with “We're going to take the firearms first and then go to court” — desperate attempts to rationalize or ignore that he actually said it.

    It’s been four years of onion articles that are real
     
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    This thread is about what Trump is quoted as saying. Nothing fantasy about it outside of his defenders.
     
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    when?
     
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    make this holiday permenant yes
     

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