CDC Reveals Hospitals Counted Heart Attacks As COVID-19 Deaths

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Only the ones with a reality deficiency! That and many other causes of unrelated death have been going in the COVID column every since they started receiving compensation for COVID related death :)

     
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    Would you agree the 11,000 in hospice care didn't actually die of Covid?
     
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    I didn't know that helped for Dementia and Lung Cancer.... lol.

    Thanks for driving my point home.
     
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    Direct Source aired on SPAN = "propaganda" to the above Liberal. Think about that everyone. This is who the Left has become.

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  5. truth and justice

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    "Dementia? Lung Cancer?" are not questions. Now if you're asking why these are lower, perhaps you have some numbers?
     
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    Post the transcript. She pointed out that we count them as Covid deaths. She meant that as "they should be counted as covid deaths".
     
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    Good Lord... you're actually arguing against the direct source video. lol
     
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    So she didn't say what she meant? She meant what you think she meant to say.

    Geez. People who are absolutely convinced that they haven't been jerked around by propaganda are impossible to convince that they have been jerked around by propaganda.
     
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    Just to further put this in perspective, by the logic of the OP, HIV/AIDS doesn't kill anyone. Someone needs to tell the medical community that HIV/AIDS isn't deadly so they can put their money and time into treating a real problem, like Kaposi sarcoma or something.
     
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    I have said this on here before, I know 3 nurses in 3 hospitals in 3 states, they all told me independently that ALL deaths no matter what the reason are reported as Covid death, EVERY ONE OF THEM. There is a big cash payout. Everyone knows it, even the fools that believe that Trump is responsible for 222222 deaths. What is the real number. I put it at 45,000.
     
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    I agree with what you are saying. The problem is the Dems are constantly saying Trump is responsible for 'over 200k deaths', when the reality is, many of the deaths would have occurred with or without contracting Covid-19.
     
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    What comes when you politicize a damn disease!
     
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    Whether people like it or not, the CDC is the Agency that publishes our Mortality Rate and Causes of Death, Period!

    Thus, let’s patiently wait for their 2020 report, then argue.

    And the whiners in this forum will certainly not convince the CDC to amend their statistics.
     
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    It’s to late to change CDC’s Covid19 death certification guidelines, and you whiners had at least 6 months to convince an old Army General to line up his Sherman’s in front of the CDC’s headquarters, and take your country back.
     
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    In the meantime, the Democrats are trying to pin the current death toll on Trump, which shows their true colors.
     
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    Is there a link to actual CDC report?
     
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    Not in the report. You can find the data at cdc.gov though.
     
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    by this logic, nobody ever dies from HIV
     
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    Ha!
    I tried to find it. That website has a ton of reports.
     
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    if these people did not have Covid-19 they would likely still be alive today.

    the Covid pushed their body over the edge
     
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    :roflol:

    he not busy being born is busy dying

    :salute:
     
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    So do you really think these authors "have no clue what science is: Eunice Y. C. Shiu1, Huizhi Gao, Jessica Y. Wong, Min W. Fong, Sukhyun Ryu, and Benjamin J. Cowling, Author affiliations: University of Hong Kong?


    “Abstract

    There were 3 influenza pandemics in the 20th century, and there has been 1 so far in the 21st century. Local, national, and international health authorities regularly update their plans for mitigating the next influenza pandemic in light of the latest available evidence on the effectiveness of various control measures in reducing transmission. Here, we review the evidence base on the effectiveness of nonpharmaceutical personal protective measures and environmental hygiene measures in nonhealthcare settings and discuss their potential inclusion in pandemic plans. Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. We similarly found limited evidence on the effectiveness of improved hygiene and environmental cleaning. We identified several major knowledge gaps requiring further research, most fundamentally an improved characterization of the modes of person-to-person transmission.”


    Volume 26, Number 5—May 2020, Policy Review, Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures, Jingyi Xiao1, Eunice Y. C. Shiu1, Huizhi Gao, Jessica Y. Wong, Min W. Fong, Sukhyun Ryu, and Benjamin J. Cowling, Author affiliations: University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China
    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
     
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    Always follow the money.
     
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    When "scientists" fudge their data their "science" is garbage.
     
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    Found it:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

    Table 3.
    Total death count of 203k includes 7k from intentional and unintentional injury, 88k flu, 9k cancer, 34k diabetes, 8k obesity.

    Yeah, we’ve been fed bull excrement all this time.
     

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