CDC Reveals Hospitals Counted Heart Attacks As COVID-19 Deaths

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662657/

That was so easy to find! Took all of 2 seconds
"We conducted a prospective cluster-randomized trial comparing surgical masks, non–fit-tested P2 masks, and no masks in prevention of influenza-like illness (ILI) in households. Mask use adherence was self-reported. During the 2006 and 2007 winter seasons, 286 exposed adults from 143 households who had been exposed to a child with clinical respiratory illness were recruited. We found that adherence to mask use significantly reduced the risk for ILI-associated infection........"

 

Then how come we don’t count people who died of heart attacks after a battle with the flu as flu deaths?

 

They do. In fact, people who died from flu aren't/weren't even tested for flu but still listed as flu deaths.

 

They do

 

And then we have the example of Kansas

https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article244959870.html

 

That’s not true at all.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/portals/1/documents/5100/420-112-guideline-influenzadeath.pdf


“Only lab-confirmed fatal cases are reportable”

 

No they don’t. They list them as coronary deaths. Which is why we have TENS OF THOUSANDS less coronary deaths this year; because we’re counting them as covid deaths.

 

That link is not saying what you think it is saying. It's literally saying that if there is a lab confirmed flu death the death should be listed as death from flu hence a person who had a heart attack and had flu would be listed as a flu death.
"Confirmed: A laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated death is defined as a death resulting directly or indirectly from a clinically compatible illness that was confirmed to be influenza by an appropriate laboratory test."

Also we have:

A death (from flu) should not be reported if any of the below occur:
•There is no laboratory confirmation of influenza virus infection, or
•The influenza illness is followed by full recovery to baseline health status prior to death, or
•After review and consultation there is an alternative agreed upon cause of death.

This criteria is exactly the same for Covid but Covid has to be lab confirmed so the first "or" above would be changed to "and"

Most people who are listed as a flu death are not even tested for flu - find a dead homeless guy in the street in winter - cause of death = flu/pneumonia; find a old person dead in a house during winter - cause of death is flu/pneumonia.

"For several reasons, the number of influenza-related deaths cannot be determined solely by reports of influenza-coded deaths. First, most adult patients with symptoms consistent with influenza infection are not tested for influenza. ."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504370/

 

Do you have a link for this reduction?

 

Do you routinely believe the statements of known liars?

As another poster noted, this is old news. Many whistleblowers reported this months ago, but they were censored and vilified by the mainstream media.

Better late than never, just like the 94% and 6% ratio a few months back.

 

They stopped talking about it back in April-June, when they saw up to a 48% reduction in hospitalizations for heart disease.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...s-fall-by-half-ndash-are-covid-fears-to-blame

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/...itals-emergency-care-heart-attack-stroke.html

https://247wallst.com/healthcare-ec...art-disease-and-cancer-go-as-covid-19-spread/

This also included cancer and diabetes treatment reductions.

Looks like we cured pneumonia when Covid came along as well.

 

I looked at your links and none show "tens of thousands less coronary deaths this year". Being admitted to hospital is not related to deaths. Your links imply an increase of deaths from heart attacks because victims were too scared to go to hospital. I would like to see actual numbers

 

No.

Covid deaths do not need to be confirmed to be classified as Covid. Testing isn't even required.

 

Either you’re purposefully not telling the truth or you don’t know. Here let me give it to you

https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nndss/conditions/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/case-definition/2020/08/05/

 

And that's exactly why we see an increase in deaths.

It's not Covid.

It's the people with 2.6 average severe comorbidities who aren't going to the hospital that are dying.

More people are dying because they've been told to be scared ****less of dying from Covid, and are instead dying because they didn't seek medical care.

 

The claim was "tens of thousands less coronary deaths this year" not more!

 

And what happened to the antibody testing push?

Hint:

"But if the state’s numbers indicated the true incidence of the virus, they would mean that more than 1.7 million people in New York City, and more than 2.6 million people statewide, have already been infected.

That is far greater than the 250,000 confirmed cases of the virus itself that the state has recorded.

It would also mean that the fatality rate from the virus was relatively low, about 0.5 percent, Mr. Cuomo said."
THE NEW YORK TIMES, Cuomo Says 21% of Those Tested in N.Y.C. Had Virus Antibodies: Live Updates, The preliminary data suggests that many more New Yorkers may have been infected than was previously believed., Governor Cuomo, Transcript of briefing, 4/23/20.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/nyregion/coronavirus-new-york-update.html

 

What's your link supposed to show?

 

IOW, a corrupt healthcare system is counting coronary deaths as C19 deaths to maintain the lockdowns, and collect the WuFlu subsidies.

But they wouldn't do anything that low down and dirty - would they?

 

Do doctors care about money?
Surely not!

 

Still waiting for those numbers. I don't think you meant to like my post

 

The ventilators had an 80% kill rate. Bullets are not as deadly.

"Doctors are still figuring out the best ways to care for patients with COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus.
Over the past few weeks, as the virus has spread in New York City, one hospital has started keeping patients off ventilators longer, hoping that they'll be able to recover faster than if they were intubated.
Others are trying tactics like placing patients on their stomachs to help their lungs better circulate oxygen."

"The Associated Press reported on Wednesday that New York City officials said 80% of patients on ventilators there had died."
BUSINESS INSIDER, Coronavirus patients are dying on ventilators. It's leading to a debate over the best way to get oxygen into their damaged lungs., By Lydia Ramsey Apr 10, 2020.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ventilator-high-flow-oxygen-coronavirus-patients-ards-dying-2020-4

And some wonder why people refuse to see their doctors now.

 

HUH. Im pointing out what she actually said. YOU and yours are the one saying that it she says something she did'nt.

 

"The claim was "tens of thousands less coronary deaths this year" not more!" T&J

I assumed you were agreeing that there have been less coronary deaths.
Can you paste up something from the cited source that shows that the opposite is true?

 

I've asked for the source supporting the claim