Julian Assange free?

No surprise. Real due process of law has become rather elusive.

 

Ty for the good source.
Trump should pardon Assange before they kill him.

 

Yes. And then they banned all political parties but their own.

Yes. And then the U.S. and GB (others too?) side-lined them, and "imposed their will" as someone recently called it.

 

.. or non-existent.

 

Yes, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany were not created by a foreign invasion force.

The US the UK, under progressive leadership, supported their own preferred socialist factions.
The CIA was apparently involved in the creation the organized labor movements in Europe and Japan after WW II. What could go wrong?

 

The failure of our abusive rigged justice system has been well documented.
Fundamental reform is probably impossible given the entrenched corruption of the bipartisan political class that rules America.

“The National Registry of Exonerations is a project of the University of Michigan Law School, Michigan State University College of Law and the University of California Irvine Newkirk Center for Science and Society. The Registry was co-founded in 2012 with the Center on Wrongful Convictions at Northwestern University School of Law to provide detailed information about known exonerations in the United States since 1989. As of February 6, 2020, the Registry has 2,551 known exonerations in the United States since 1989.[1] The National Registry does not include more than 1,800 defendants cleared in 15 large-scale police scandals that came to light between 1989 and March 7, 2017, in which officers systematically framed innocent defendants.[2][3]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Registry_of_Exonerations

 

Just watched the video. Excellent.

 

True, but they were created by foreign invasion forces from the west.

 

This the greatest pity of our time and it demonstrates that Democracy is dwindling at a quick rate of speed right into the depths of Fascism. Note that the same problem is running rampant all over the west. Funny isn't it that once the Soviet Union was dissolved Russia set a course towards Democracy and shortly thereafter the west set its course in the opposite direction. We will soon be ships passing one another on the way to our respective goals and I sometimes wonder if that point has already been.

 

If you read the details of the story (which admittingly requires patience, something many people here do not seem to have), then I think the situation will become obvious to you.

To me, it's pretty obvious it wasn't "really" rape, and when Assange was first informed there were "rape" accusations against him, he probably would have been genuinely surprised and not really known what they were about.

Well, that's about as simple as I can put it without wasting my time getting into an argument about that here.

 

One of the greatest rapist who was a favorite with liberals was Martin Luther King.
He raped some of the women who came to work with him. And I mean 'rape.'

 

John Pilger: A BAFTA - British Academy of Film and Television Arts - award-winning documentary filmmaker.

 

.... well-respected and whose credibility is unquestionable.

 

Tell us when Assange was "told to stop" and who it was who, "told him" to do that. I am listening.

Give us an example of Pilger making false accusations in favour of the "Marxist, Maoist, North Vietnamese Communist Party".

 

Let's be honest now ... Any US indictment or US request to extradite Julian Assange to the US is a crime. I don't like Julian Assange as a person in the least because he's an arrogant and narcissistic bastard ... but that's not the point!
He is not a US citizen and has not committed the accused crime from US territory, provided it was as the US claims. It's about spreading US secrets that prove unbelievable US crimes and, ultimately, journalism too.
Let's turn the tables ... and let's say some well-known US media makes a similar revelation story about the Russian or Chinese military ... Then Russia or China have the right to demand the extradition of the US journalist responsible as the USA does at Julian Assange?

I don't think that any American will say here "Yes, they have the same right and the US journalist should be given to them", eh?

 

True.

True.

True.

Uhhhh ...... I do not recall a single case of the U.S. honouring any extradition request made by either Russia or China.

For sure.

 

"Stop" as in the women told Assange to s.t.o.p.

You don't have to make 'false accusations in favor" of Marxism, you just have to parrot their line.
ie that they are 'nationalist' - true, but they killed many nationalists and assumed the nationalist mantle.
ie they are 'liberating' people from Capitalism - true, but enslaving them with Communism (worse)
ie they are fighting French and American imperialism - true, but establing Vietnamese imperialism in Indochina
etc..

 

Yeah, him.

 

What makes you think they told him "s.t.o.p"? The Swedish courts who said they did or the women themselves who said they didn't?

You mean if reporting the truth proves "Marxism" (your word, not mine) is/was specifically in the right it means the report itself is "Marxist"?

You poor, poor fellow. You think that liberation in the name of Capitalism is a good thing but it's a bad thing if liberation is in the name of Socialism/Communism. I am concerned with your capacity to understand the world.

So, "Vietnam establing imperialism in Indochina"? LOL!

* Have you ever heard Cambodia?
* Have you ever heard of Pol Pot?
* Have you ever heard of the Khmer Rouge?
* Do you know what political philosophy the "Khmer Rouge" stood for?
* Have you ever heard of "the Killing Fields"?
* Do you know who defeated Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge?

Let me give you a hint: The people who liberated Cambodia from Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge are known as ......... Vietnamese. You know, the people you accuse of "Establing imperialism in Indochina".

 

I have photos of me standing in front of many Soviet/Communist statues and buildings. Am I a Marxist? I also have photos of me standing in front of the Eifel tower, Neuwschanstein castle, Statue of Liberty, Washington Monument, Lincoln Memorial, Sydney Opera House, the Grand Canyon, the Swedish ship "Wasa", the King of Sweden's residency, the King of Norway's residency, Britain's Houses of Parliament, the Wailing Wall of Jerusalem, the Lion of Singapore, the John Hancock Building of Chicago, the pyramids of Giza, Big Ben in London, Table Mountian in the RSA, The Colosseum of Rome, the Parthenon of Athens, various pagodas in Japan, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, the Golden Temple of Amritsar, the Red Fort of Delhi, the Taj Mahal, the Budha of Mandalay in Burma, me sitting atop my bunker in my fatigues in Vietnam, and many, many more.

What does that make me? A Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Capitalist, Democrat, Republican, Socialist, Communist, Imperialist, Fascist? You are so petty it is a shame to the human species.

 

When a Communist says his system doesn't go through the boom and busts of a Capitalist economy
he is probably saying a FACT.
But it isn't the TRUTH because his system stays bust until it is overthrown.
Marxists are careful to state the facts - but rarely tell the whole truth.

Yes, Vietnam wanted a Communist empire over Indochina, and hopefully beyond (Thailand failed)
General Giap boasted of 'setting all of Asia on fire.'
There is no Khmer Rouge - that name was adopted by the French philosophers after Pol Pot - instead
of saying 'Cambodian Communist Party' they would say 'Khmer Rouge' to absolve themselves of the
claim that Communism would lead to a blood bath in IndoChina.
ie 'Soviet' means 'council' but we don't say the 'council government.'
Marxists love to play with words. From the French philosophers came Pol Pot.
We would only know about the 'killing fields' when Pol Pot turned on his North Vietnamese handlers and
Hanoi needed to justify invading Cambodia a SECOND TIME.
There were killing fields in North Vietnam, North Korea, China and yes, the Soviet Union.

 

You know of course that Pilger posed there because he was comfortable with the symbolism.
(Think of Hanoi Jane posing with anti-aircraft guns in North Vietnam.)
Instead of becoming another South Korea as most people expected, South Vietnam became
another North Korea. But liberty is an on-going struggle, and slowly the Vietnamese are making
headway. Sadly it's going the other way in China and Hong Kong.

 

All true and agreed ... but I hope you are not ignoring or even denying the US crimes in Vietnam and as well in Korea too wich costs also millions of lifes!
And I'm not talking about obvious, heinous war crimes like the My Lai massacre (with which the US had a problem even then, admitting its outrage and seeing the perpetrators as heroic victims, etc.). I'm talking about other things like Agent Orange and the targeted bombardment of civilians.

 

What is interesting is that the few people who got in thought he was going to be released. The normal time for asking for bail would have been after the judge gave her verdict but she asked them to wait until Wednesday. This made people believe he was going to get bail.

Read More The Assange Verdict: What Happens Now – Consortiumnews

Interestingly when she refused bail she went back on having said there was little incentive to abscond and suggested he was likely to.

P.S Off topic for this post but I am not sure if people know but Assange has not been diagnosed as austistic with Aspergers.

 

ALL war is 'crime' - particularly in the Pacific WWII Americans learned to take no prisoners
after various Japanese tricks of surrendering soldiers or booby trapped injured. And Americans
sometimes shot German POW's, and bombed German civilians. All bad.
The one that stands out in Viet War was one told to me by a Vietnamese friend - the imperial city
of Hue was taken by the Viet Cong during the Tet Offensive. The general population did not rise
up and support the VC - so the VC and Nth Viets dug a trench down a major street and cast in
people, often alive and tortured, and buried them. It was a big thing afterwards digging these poor
souls up. Hardly made the news. MEANWHILE the image of a napalmed girl was over every paper
in the Western world - she was caught in the cross fire between the Communists and the Sth Viet
air force. She is trotted out, even today, as a cause celebre of the Viet Communist Party, no doubt
by some of the very people who murdered, or ordered the murders, of thousands of Sth Viet during
that Tet incident, and after 1975 take over of Saigon.