Minnesota police shoot, kill man after traffic stop incident

I have no idea how it came it be that people get to decide to un-arrest themselves these days.

 

Because of the comment I was responding to... If the police give you a legal, proper command and order you to stand down and surrender yourself into their custody, YOU DO IT, or suffer the consequences.

No, I do not think it appropriate to try and flee an arrest, just don't think it should carry the death penalty.

Someone in a car driving away, seems a bad time for the taser, could cause them to do all sorts of damage

 

She is probably not carrying a revolver, likely a striker fired semi auto pistol. They're close.

 

Will this be dismissed as 'CYA':

 

The female officer was evidently one with many years on the force, not a newcomer.

 

Yes you do or there may be consequences.

Had he gone to court no there wouldn't have been a death penalty for that but there would have been consequences.

So they should have just let him drive away.

 

and you are cool with one of those consequences being death?

have you never questioned authority in your whole life?

Why not? Was there any evidence he was a danger to anyone at the time?

Taze someone driving a car and their foot might mash the gas pedal and take out a bus stop full of people. Was stopping him that important?

Yes, he made a mistake by driving away and when they found him again that would have been added to his list of charges.

 

This is a pretty huge mistake. Perhaps they need to find a way to make the taser feel less like a real gun.

 

Depends on the circumstance. In this case the consequence was getting TASED but the officer accidentally puller her firearm instead of her TASEr

Not the police when I was subject to a stop. Do you believe we have a right to not follow the lawful orders of the police and just tell them to take a hike and drive off or run away?

Really so if the police are engaged in a lawful stop of me I do not have to obey them and can just drive away?

He had priors and an outstanding warrant. He was attempting to get in the vehicle and drive away. I guess they could have purposely shot him then instated of attempted to TASE him because that would just kill him and his foot could not mash the gas pedal?

Once again all he had to do was submit to the lawful arrest and then he would not have been accidentally shot.

 

Read the responses above, yep you do not have to follow the lawful orders of the police and even when they are attempting to cuff you you can just tell them no and walk or drive away according those defending the criminal here.

 

Of course you can, it will just add more charges against you.

People have outstanding warrants for all sorts of reasons. My daughter found out she had one while doing her background check for a job. She had no idea, it was from a ticket when she was 17 that she thought she had dealt with, she was 25 at the time she found out.

 

Police quite issuing revolvers over 20 years ago. Most agencies use 9mm or 40 cal while some officers might carry a reserve .25 or .38 revolver as they are extremely reliable, but rarely used in the commission of detaining suspects.

 

Wow.
Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

A "veteran officer" who can't tell the difference between a Taser and a Pistol?

At the very least, she needs to be fired and do some prison time for this blatant Manslaughter.

 

I think my favorite part is where the bad guy does something incredibly stupid and puts himself and others in danger, but when they get dealt with it's "they didn't deserve to die" somehow. The cops would have written that dumb*** a ticket if he didn't respond like a clown.

The entitlement attitude of these people is astonishing.

 

The police are fully-empowered to use whatever means that are required needed to ENFORCE THE LAW, and force those they are trying to arrest into compliance. Whether the "perps" get the "death penalty" by refusing to obey lawful commands by the police is up to THOSE BEING ARRESTED!

. "You have the right to be STOOPID, but don't blame me if you are...!"

 

This sounds like a case of "misogyny"! Leftists on board with this?

 

Simply not true, and I am shocked you think that it is.

There are very specific rules for the use of deadly force, they are not just when the cop feels like it.

You truly are living in the wrong country if you want the police to have that much power.

I would be happy to help pay for your ticket to where they do

 

Last night I just watched a video cam of a police officer receiving the death penalty from a citizen after a routine stop in New Mexico. The officer was polite and after getting ID the citizen stepped out of the car with a rifle and executed him pronto! Didn't end well for the citizen when caught but this is the sort of thing that causes officers to use deadly force.

 

Well Darth, when an officer is about to take someone in custody, they break away and return to the car, there is a good chance of getting shot. That is why this guy is dead. Quick thinking on her part and Monday morning quarterbacking from you.

 

And it is also why she will likely be without a job soon. The fact that it happened does not make it lawful.

It is sort of shocking how many people that I assumed were on the "right" want to give the government unlimited power like this.

 

Any time a guy is shot in the back, it never looks good for the shooter. Shooting in self defense can certainly be justified, shooting a guy in the back because you are pissed off that he ducked you....not so good.

 

That depends on whether the suspect was shot in the back or the front.

 

Any cop that can’t tell the difference between a taser and a pistol should be barred for life to carry either.

 

This shows why the Left and the Right are so very far apart, and growing even farther apart all the time.

You are totally wrong in your assessment of what police powers, duties, and responsibilities are -- and since you don't believe me, ASK ANY POLICEMAN.

When a perp is being apprehended for having a warrant out for his arrest, and he attempts to escape, the police are fully empowered -- unless it is stipulated otherwise by individual police department protocol -- to use lethal force to get that perp under control, under arrest, and in confinement -- primarily to render the perp unable to cause harm to other people!

 

When I was in high school our cross country team used to like to TP houses. We were very good at it and even made the school news paper a few times. We were fearless as we knew by name everyone in the city that could catch us if we got caught and had to run. A couple times the police drove by while we were in the act, and knowing there was not a cop on the force that could break 17 min for 3 miles, we ran off.

Going by your views, they would have been perfectly in their right to shoot us as we did.