Facts, statistics DISPROVE the BIG LIE about police

true on all points except your last piece. What exactly does this point have anything to do with my post? This is a straw man, you are changing the argument (which you seem to largely agree with) to maneuver your way into countering or refuting but you are not refuting anything, you are refuting yourself, by a creating an argument you are refuting? Who said we shouldn’t be concerned with unarmed people being shot? The post was about the lie about police being racists and killing blacks in large numbers for no reason other than victims are black. It’s also that there are bigger issues facing blacks (much bigger issues like black on black crime) which are being ignored.

 

Lies, damn lies and statistics. No thanks.

 

So you don't know why. That's what I thought.

I don't have to ask them. I already know why. And we have been telling you why for decades.

 

I already know the answer. The question is if you know the answer.

Please respond. If you don't know, just say it.

 

You have your answer - culture, toxic culture.

and NO, you cannot continue to blame whites of hundreds of years ago... those people are long dead. NO WHITES OF TODAY ARE FORCING BLACKS TO KILL EACH OTHER.

TIME TO STOP THIS TOXIC AND DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR OF BLAMING WHITES OF HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO AND TIME TO START TAKING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, HOLD YOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE. This is the ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS. THERE ARE NO WHITE OPPRESORS,,, you are chasing GHOSTS.

Your type of thinking is toxic and destructive.. blaming your failures and irresponsible behavior on dead people and ghosts.. instead holding yourself accountable and holding yourself responsible for your actions. This is why there is no progress, because of people like you and leaders you support. Your lies and deceit just distracts from the real issues and your solutions are not cures but rather treatments which never cure the disease.

The cure is simple - raise your children right way, go to school, work hard and respect the law. No amount of free handouts or hate against whites/police will solve any problems, in fact this will just worsen the situation, as we have seen in recent years.

 

I directly answered your question.

The black illegitimacy rate is so high because of the financial incentive provided by LBJ's War on Poverty for single parenthood. The skyrocketing rate corresponds perfectly to its enactment.

The ball is in your court.

 

What produces this "toxic culture"? Some gene? Historical reality? An evil conspiracy?....

I can hear you just fine if you respond like normal poster. No need to scream your response.

BTW, I couldn't care less about "blame". I'm just trying to figure out if you are aware why things are the way they are.

 

I'm not understanding your response. HOW did LBJ's war on poverty cause black people to commit more crimes but not white people?

You are not answering the question. You are just listing more statistics which, even if they were true (no references provided, but not relevant), would only be a symptom of the problem. Not the cause. Please state the cause.

I must say, though, that you are getting warmer. But still very far from providing a real answer to the question.

 

We bailed out deadbeat dads and the mothers that had their kids. Subsidize something and you get more of it. Duh. Economics 101.

 

You bring up a devastating fact, how LBJ’s war on poverty has done more harm than good.

but here’s is golem’s rationale in a nutshell:

‘Hey jimmy, what have you done with your life? Why didn’t you go to school, why did you rob the store at 14, why did you assault the cop at 18, why did you shoot your friend at 21?

jimmy: ‘white man’

‘which white man jimmy?

jimmy: ‘white man’

‘jimmy, can you name me who?’

jimmy: ‘white man’


In reality it was jimmy himself who decided to take all these actions. Jimmy probably had a dad who was never present, in jail on/off and a mom who may have not instilled right values. Jimmy’s parents didn’t do a good job.

Now blaming whitey here solves what????? Just justifies jimmy’s behaviors, he has an excuse now. Dems will convince jimmy it’s not him or his parents, it’s an unnamed, unseen whitey, somewhere, pulling the strings.

and if anyone says ‘ok, but it’s whitey of hundred years ago’ you need to re-think that and do some introspection. At which point will it be time to move on from slavery, will 100 hundred years from now another jimmy be convinced by progressives of the same lies?

 

And that has something to do with it how?

It is a problem which the blacks will have to solve. Changing the police won't solve it. The Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's could probably make an impact, but for whatever reason, they do not even try. They just blame the police and the whites.

In the meantime, the blacks kill each other and commit crimes at rates many times that of the whites while at the same time blaming this on whites and racism.

 

One is a problem. Would it be OK to say that only a few people are killed or raped by people in this country illegally so we should ignore that when it happens?

 

stop with the god darn straw mans. No-one is saying that. I already addressed this in a response to you

Getting tired of these straw mans, when you all find it hard to refute arguments you change them. Some here making it appear as if we are arguing ‘these lives don’t matter (blacks killed by cops)’ or that ‘blacks are all killers’

straw mans... stop it.

 

One is addressable by an investigation and a trial. Not implementing nationwide restructuring of police departments that will ultimately result in more crime, lol.

But I guess kneejerks will kneejerk, and propagandists will propagandize.

 

They never seem to pay attention to what you actually say. Amazing how they consistently do that.

 

they know, just cannot refute unless they change what we are arguing... it gets old. They make up arguments they can then refute.

 

The question of yours that I was responding to was...

I gave a direct answer to that question.

 

An all too familiar refrain for sure.

 

I raised my children by myself, as a single parent. I’ll bet my children are more intelligent and better off than your children, or any one in your family.

 

LOL @Mike12 for expecting liberals to comment in a thread with real FACTS and STATISTICS

 

It is the part of the problem, is it not. The police have the data and the evidence to prove their wrong doing but they go out of their way to make it unavailable.

 

One is a problem for sure, but its proper analysis requires both logic and proportion. Out of 330 million people you can find instances of darn near everything. There is an exceedingly rare sexual fetish where people are sexually aroused by the prospect of unnecessarily having their limbs amputated, it is called apotemnophilia.

The existence of this extremely rare fetish does not make us a nation of apotemnophiliacs, any more than the exceedingly rare unarmed shooting makes us a nation of systemic racists.

Proportion is everything.

By the way, the answer is 18. There were 18 unarmed African Americans that were shot and killed by police in 2020. There were 24 whites in that same time frame. If you add the number of unarmed whites killed to the number of unarmed blacks killed and then double that number, you will have about as many people as are killed yearly by lawnmowers. While every one of these instances is a tragedy to their loved ones, I do not believe that lawnmower deaths or unarmed shooting deaths deserve even 1/1000th of the attention currently being given to unarmed shooting deaths.

Proportion is everything. We have far bigger fish to fry.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

 

I would make this same argument about conservatives. They tend to live a social setting that encourages the type of thought and behavior that is common among conservatives. It is the social setting that makes it acceptable for them to hate on those not like themselves. Makes conservatives march in lock step as they do, and believe the silliness that comes out of the wrong-wing media. Studies have shown that it is when parents are authoritarian, that their children turn out conservative. It is the conservative culture that makes people fearful, so much that they think they need deadly weapons to make themselves feel safe. It is the conservative culture that discourages higher education and condemns schools and colleges. It is the conservative culture that hold people in the morass. And when things go wrong, as they always do, conservatives always have liberals and racial minorities to scapegoat.

The way you fix this is to get conservatives off the wrong-wing media teat and hold them accountable for their bad behavior.

 

The bigger problem is not police killing Black people, it is the police being used to suppress African people and others the local gentry deem worthy of suppression and harassment. One of the reason that there is so much animosity towards the police in this country, is because most police officers aren’t all that respectful to the citizens of the communities they police. It is not just Africans, the police do the same thing in poor European neighborhoods. After all, the primary purpose of the police is to keep the gentry safe, keep the masses from getting too uppity.

 

This is not the argument being waged by BLM. My argument is directed at their position.