Facts, statistics DISPROVE the BIG LIE about police

Those terms, caucasoid and mongoloid, are from outdated ideas that turned out to be wrong. Some people see those terms as offensive. Turns out that White people began in the North by the Baltic and North Seas, and migrated southwards. Asians began in the Middle East and spread in all directions. Seems to me that there are four races, Africans, Europeans, Asians, and Americans. However they are all compatible and able to cross breed.

The problem that you are having, is your inability to see the trees for the forest. Yes, this may be a pine tree forest, but not every tree is a pine tree. Sure Blacks, on average, tend to be more athletic than most Whites, but there are still Whites who are far more athletic than most Black people. I learned this lesson on the running track. I came from a mostly white school. We had a track meet against a couple of mostly Black schools. When we lined up to do the mile relay, the other teams were all Black. We expected to lose. I ran second, and after I handed off the baton, as I turned to see where the competition was, they were just coming out of the last corner. When my teammate, who ran third, came into to hand off the baton, he was dancing, he was so far ahead.

Being in sports one tends to get the idea that Black men are big and muscular. But they are more of the exception. White men tend to be 4 to 6 inches taller than most Black men, and in a fair fight, an average healthy White man has a clear advantage over an average healthy Black man. Take that and the more enlightened upbringing many Whites receive, and I don’t see why so many Whites live in fear of the scary Black man. Unless it is guilt.

On the same token though, it is reported that Jews have average IQ’s of 106, Africans somewhere around 90 and 100 for Americans. But you know these numbers are squat. If Jews’ average IQ’s is 106, and it takes and IQ of 120 or more to do engineering work, then that tells you the vast majority of Jews are intellectually incapable of doing engineering work. It is just a few who can. Same with Blacks, even though the vast majority of Blacks are incapable of doing engineering work, there are many who can and do.

There is no shortage of scummy White people out there. I would hate to be condemned for their behavior. But that is exactly what conservatives tend to do, condemn 99.9% of Blacks for what a small percentage of them do.

Half of Whites have a lower than average IQ.

 

Selected facts to support a rather despicable point of view. He is condemning 99.993% of Blacks for what .007% are doing.

 

Nixon and then Reagan waged a war on drugs that was specifically designed to do harm to Blacks and “hippies”. The result has been the US becoming the country with the most jailed individuals of any country on Earth, a disproportionate number of them Black. Whites tend to consume drugs at about the same rates as Blacks, yet the police are something like four times as likely to stop, search, and arrest a Black person for a simple drug charge, than a White person.

It is quite clear that a system has been set up to criminalize Black people, by which conservatives then use to justify their “opinions” of Black people.

It is rather telling, the conservative mindset. They are always insisting that it is liberals, if they really are liberals, are authoritarians. Which is, of course, rather absurd. As hard was the wrong-wing has tried to pretend otherwise, this thread, along with all the others on this subject, clearly show that the conservative mindset is an authoritarian one, that seems to prefer a Police state that keeps people in line, than anything approaching real freedom, real rights. Makes the wrong-wing narratives sound even more vacant.

 

He's only providing statistics. When you take into account the % of blacks Vs whites, then the % of black crime vs white crime, then the % of whites shot by cops VS blacks shot by cops, you might not like the end number (I don't know what that is because I'm mathematically challenged) but i'm guessing the end number will prove that more whites are shot by cops(on a proportion scale, not because there are more white people)

 

Surely you’re not arguing the “just because they’re black” mantra? Those historical factors are mostly generations removed from current blacks. Of course there’s the Great Society which has spent trillions allegedly trying to alleviate those issues. The program of which LBJ once said “this will have blacks (he used a different word) voting Democratic for a hundred years”.

 

Yeah, drugs were a huge help to the black community, lol.

 

It is kind of hard to respond when we all know exactly the argument you are making, and why you are making it. You are most likely part of the problem, not the solution. You use the statistics of a corrupt system to justify that corruption. I don’t find it honorable in the least.

With the long beautiful hair of my youth, my friends and I were regularly hassled by the police. Stupid moronic police who were @#$ holes just because they could be. After I cut my hair the police began to treat me with a great deal of respect. A girlfriend of mine, who had gone to college to understand the behavior of people, insisted that I, in the fine physique of my younger self, was seen as a threat to the manhood of lesser men, especially those in jobs that gives them petty authority powers. It is kind of hard to “be the man” when one is not the most manly man around. Conservatives may find this hard to believe, the programming and all, but women tend to find men with lots of hair more attractive. As I matured, I was no longer seen as a threat, but rather as a man with authority. Blacks don’t have the advantages that I do. A hair cut does not stop the problem with the police.

The police tend to have average intelligence, by design. It is easy for them to get lost in their culture and prejudices, but at the same time, rather easy to play. Unfortunately it is a rotten culture that is playing them.

I am a scientist/engineer who has relied on data streams to determine the condition of things. Spent a lot of time playing with numbers, finding the patterns. It is why your “facts” so glaringly present a state of affairs that is not in line with your narrative. I first came to realize this about conservative arguments about twenty years ago, when someone had given me book that purported to prove God scientifically. At first look it looked like a science textbook, except most of the equations led to nowhere, making the many equations for show. The author must have expected his audience to be mathematically illiterate.

 

So do you have any evidence that the stats are wrong?

You get what you pay for. Defund the police and see if it gets any better.

Out of curiosity, which book was it, if you can remember? There are a lot of bad apologetic books out there. Aquinas' arguments are much more sophisticated and I find them compelling.

 

In my youth, in my high school and college years, I consumed marihuana at least once a week and experimented with other drugs from time to time. I still got straight A’s and still got the girl. The anti drug propaganda turned out to mostly BS from inferior people.

 

I had a friend like that. Ended up doing an internship for NASA with a 4.0 in engineering. Like alcohol, some can handle it, and some can't. The harder drugs, though, no good at all.

 

My theory on the attack on police is... eventually all the consciencous officers will be rooted out, and what will be left (or recruited) will be true psychopaths in a police uniform. then the Left will fund them to do their dirty work.. It's pretty much what happens in communists' and other totalitarians regimes, And they'll do a version of this to the military, weed out the patriots and leave the mental defectives.

 

I didn’t say the stats were wrong, I am saying that they do not square with the narrative. The OP is arguing the scary Black man narrative, but if you work out the numbers, he is condemning 44 million Blacks for what 8000 have done. In other numbers, he is condemning 99.993% of Blacks for what .007% have done. Should we condemn all White people because most mass murderers are White?

Most embezzlers are White women. Should we condemn all White women for what a small minority of them do? Maybe the police should be chasing down White women and putting guns in their faces. After all you never know which one just stole a suitcase full of cash from their employer.

 

Except, as can be seen in the many posts on this forum, that it is conservatives, in spite of their proclamations to the contrary, who are the authoritarians. Are those who jones for a police state. It shows up in the psychological studies. That authoritarian parents tend to produce conservative children who grow up to be authoritarian parents. Conservative, conformist, and authoritarian, are synonyms.

 

Aren't you saying the same thing about police? You are condemning all police for what a few have done.

 

They are able to breed because they are the same species. Race does not qualify as being distinct enough to qualify us as different species but it is wholly applicable when qualifying is as different sub-species. In fact that’s what race is. Classification of different sub-species.

Those words have fell out of use, however it’s not because they’re incorrect but simply because of exactly what you stated. The words, and more specifically the implications of what the words mean, have become “offensive”. However, the truth does not care whether someone is offended or not. Every single person on the planet can be offended at the fact that on average blacks are more athletic than Asians, but it’s still true.

Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. But we do not live our lives based upon the exception, we live our lives based upon the rule. If you live your life or structure your society based upon the exception you will be completely miserable and so will your society. Which, in fact, is what is happening today. The left is attempting to structure society to be beholden to the exception and not the rule.

This is true but again this goes back to the original point. While white and Asians were cultivating crops... Africans were striving constantly hunting for their next meal. But hunter gatherers don’t need to be big and strong. They need to be athletic and have a high conditioning threshold. Why? Because when they would take down a large prey, they would injure it with a spear and then run for miles upon miles upon miles following their prey and tracking it until it died and before other predators could get to it.

That’s why the Africans do so well in the long distance marathons. They’re literally built for it.

In normal times I would agree with this sentiment. However, the left has taken their racist ideology and weaponized it against whites. They have codified explicitly racist and discriminatory policies against whites. They have begun to demonize the entire race through their concepts of white privilege, white fragility and white supremacy. They’re inundating our children at schools with critical race theory, intersectionality and “equity” assessments.

And I’m supposed to feel bad for saying we should address their high crime rate?

 

No! You made a political statement.

That's Ok... I don't think there is a single right-winger here who will answer the question. Though, I suspect, that there is more than one that knows the answer. They just won't admit it.

 

An uncharacteristically braggadocios claim from a "scientist". Anecdotal data isn't compelling.

Of course, statistics demonstrate that single parent households, on average, are much poorer.

 

The question was "what produces blacks to commit more crimes?". Which is what the OP is about.

Add another right-winger to the list of those who can't answer the question. Or who admit they don't know.

The more of you on the list, the stronger my case becomes.

 

Good god......you asked "WHY is there this "lack of parental guidance" that you mention?", and I answered by saying "the black illegitimacy rate skyrocketed both in raw numbers and in comparison to other races immediately after LBJ's War on Poverty incentivized single parenthood. If you are seriously looking for an answer to your question, you probably want to start there.".....when you were puzzled I further clarified my answer by saying "The black illegitimacy rate is so high because of the financial incentive provided by LBJ's War on Poverty for single parenthood. The skyrocketing rate corresponds perfectly to its enactment."

To say that does not qualify as an answer is nonsensical.

 

The question that relates to the topic of this thread is "why do blacks commit more crimes than whites?". Which, BTW, I don't know to be true (and I suspect it's not).... But assuming it is... "lack of parental guidance" does not answer the question because it doesn't explain why there would be "lack of parental guidance" in the black population, but not the white population.

If you're going to jump into a discussion that is already ongoing, you need to make sure you understand the context. If you don't, you're just wasting everybody's time.

 

The answer is simple. Poverty. A difficult to break endless cycle of bad personal decisions.

 

When did this "cycle" begin, and why?

 

Just because we don't absolutely know the reason, that does not mean it is not true. If you only have one parent, then that child will not be supervised as closely as with two parents. To believe otherwise is to stick your head in the sand.

I could speculate why there are more single black parents, but it would be just that. Speculation.

 

The important question is not how it began. The important question is how to break the cycle. Taking the position that we do not know why does not solve anything.

 

Of course, black people had an uphill climb after being emancipated. With fewer rights, the initial inability in many places to own property, etc., they were at a disadvantage. However, from the emancipation until the early-mid 1900's blacks did succeed in slowly climbing out of poverty. In roughly two generations, blacks were improving in employment, education, home ownership, and most black children were born into two-parent households.

This started changing with FDR and the New Deal. Since the New Deal, the government has incentivized underachievement. Liberals promoted cultural rot, and the abandonment of education as a primary goal in life started a deterioration that unwound all the progress blacks had made on their own - despite real, difficult challenges - since 1865.