What does Critical Race Theory teach?

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  1. Zorro

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    You have found the wrong answer. Luckily, there are smart guys available to help.
    'Systemic Racism' vs. 'Racial Inequities'

    Loury & McWhorter, Substack

    I’ve spent a lot of time here at TGS pushing back against the idea that something called “systemic racism” is the primary cause of racial disparities in the US. Not only is this idea overly simplistic and ahistorical, it’s often invoked by so-called antiracist activists in order to cow their opponents into silence. If you question the idea that systemic racism is responsible for black academic underperformance, black poverty, or black crime, you’re denying the the existence of the problem, and so you’re part of the problem, and so you’re likely a racist yourself. Or so the argument goes.

    Of course, I don’t deny there’s a problem. To the contrary, I think there are huge problems facing black communities in this country. Moreover, I don’t deny that systemic racism has existed in many forms for much of this country’s history: slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, the list goes on. The effects of these historical forms of truly systemic racism are still palpable in some ways. But they don’t come close to explaining the kind of disparities we see today.

    In the excerpt below, John McWhorter and I delve into why both the idea of systemic racism and the phrase itself are insufficient to explain what they purport to explain. As always, I’m curious to know what you think. Let me know in the comments! . . .
     
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    "At its core, CRT stems from the concept of critical theory and therefore aims to divide people into "oppressed" and "oppressor" groups, foment hate and chaos, and eventually disintegrate our society."

    Did you think the opinion of a member of the thought police would be have more credibility because he's black?
     
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    Have you noticed how all right-wing books sound like the came out of a template that somebody created to sell to gullible right wingers.

    The template goes something like this:

    "At its core, [insert hated idea here] stems from the concept of [insert odious name that hate] and therefore aims to [list fear mongering here]"​

    Now ANYBODY can write a book to bamboozle right wingers.

    Examples

    "At its core, Obamacare stems from the concept of European collectivism and therefore aims to create a government controlled healthcare system"

    "At its core, mask wearing stems from the concept of marxism and therefore aims to create a nation where people are not allowed to make their own decisions."

    "At its core, global warming stems from the concept of socialism and therefore aims to create a country immersed in poverty"
    Just like the one you quote, none of them mean anything whatsoever. But boy... do they sound "academic"!

    So the poster who references it thinks it makes them look as if they understood a topic they have no clue about.
     
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  5. Jack Hays

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    I think he has credibility because he makes sense.
     
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    This is deflection when defense is impossible.
     
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    Actually, it's making fun of a post with no content, like yours was.

    You see, it's not just a matter of throwing in book titles. You actually need to show that you read the book and, most importantly, that you understood it. I have not seen that from you in any of your posts. So what other recourse is left but to make fun of those posts?
     
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    Sorry, but the rest of us need not join you in your refusal to read and understand.
     
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    I hold that you're the one who doesn't read or understand beyond the title of the books or webpages you throw in. The ease with which we can debunk the statements they contain is proof of this. Your failure to express any argument of your own associated with them is further proof You have shown no evidence that you understand what your own references say. And @Lee Atwater 's quote and mine, added to your lack of response and inability to defend the statement are proof of this.
     
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    Nope. I'm happy to let readers of this thread judge for themselves.
     
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    You think he makes sense because your twisted view of CRT aligns with his.
     
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    CRT is not just a legal theory. Their own book admits this.
     
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    I simply take the CRT proponents at their word.
     
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    We did. I'm just informing you of the results: you lost! And it's for that reason why it's enshrined in forum rules that links to outside sources are only for reference, but should not be used to make your case for you.
     
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    Rules I obey faithfully. Some people just don't know enough to keep up.
     
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    Noooo. CRT simply labels ANY racial disparity "systemic racism"

    "When I See Racial Disparities, I See Racism" Kendi

    For instance blacks dont do as well on standardized test so according to CRT

    "Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon" Kendi.
     
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    Teachers Union disagrees.

    2. Supporting and leading campaigns that:
    • Result in increasing the implementation of culturally responsive education, critical race theory, and ethnic (Native people, Asian, Black, Latin(o/a/x), Middle Eastern, North African, and Pacific Islander) Studies curriculum in pre- K-12 and higher education;
     
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    You take the word of CRT critics as to how they have politicized its meaning as fodder for the culture war.
     
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    More importantly, blacks commit 52% of the murders and 54% of the robberies, and yet are only 13% of the population.
     
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    What happens when you take dad's out if the lives of children and replace them with a government paycheck
     
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    But CRT us a twisted theory Marxist developed after they belatedly realized that the workers weren't going to rise up and throw off their imaginary chains and put on the very real ones the Marxist were offering. So unable to divide us along socio economic lines and desperate to camouflage the duster wrought by the welfare state they loved and it's whole sale destruction of the family, they decided to try to divide us along racial lines.

    Marxist, you see, require fracture points with in a society if the are to gain the power they crave as a babe seeks it's mother's milk. And if there are none they will create them out of
    thin air if necessary. And the nonsense that is CRT is about the thinnest air you can find.
     
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    I'm glad you admit it. But if you are aware that you don't know enough, why do you bother posting?
     
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    Huh? That's the definition of "systemic racism": racial disparities in the system.

    Weird comment

    Is he wrong?

    Why else would blacks not do well unless the tests were not really "standardized"?
     
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    Yes. I know thats what they call it. But it has nothing to do with racism.


    Yes he is wrong. Blacks don't do as well as whites for the same reason whites dont do as well as Asians. Lower average intelligence.
     
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    That is the actual racism. We tend to call people who discriminate against minorities "racists". But that's not racism. It's prejudice.

    Not only is that a false racist stereotype, but a very old false racist stereotype. Loooong ago debunked, but today heavily promoted by White Supremacists.
     
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