What does Critical Race Theory teach?

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is your stock answer when you can't explain your own statements.
     
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    The failure to note that for every poor black person there are six poor white people and they almost always have similar back grounds. Fatherless homes, mom's without a high school diploma and wholly dependent on the government for survival.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You think you understand a book by posting the table of contents?

    That's hilarious!
     
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    The table of contents and preface, or foreword, are enough to prove you wrong. That's all I need. You still haven't read them, obviously. And if you did bother to read them, you wouldn't admit you were wrong anyway.

    They're right there, ready to prove you wrong. Be brave. Admit it. The book was written by CRT experts and I'll take their word over yours. Thanks.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm amazed at how, with one simple question, I have managed to get so many right wingers to admit that IQ (and similar) tests measure background, poverty, education... and NOT intelligence.

    Unexpected but.... yay for me!
     
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    IQ measures IQ. People from poor backgrounds whose parents don't emphasize education will tend toward lower IQs. You have the cause and effect confused.

    Unless you're willing to admit that low IQ breeds low IQ.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The only thing that it proves is that you don't know what you're talking about. Because if you did, you would be making your own case. Instead of trying to get a "table of contents" to make your case for you. Which, BTW, is against forum rules.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So IQ tests measure poverty and the level of education poor people receive. NOT intelligence.

    Yet another right-winger I manage to get to admit this. I'm on a roll...
     
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    IQ measures IQ. They do not measure poverty or education. People who take an IQ test score as a result of their abilities. Those abilities are driven, in part, by their educational background. Educational background drives IQ, not the other way around.

    You're persisting in confusing cause and effect, getting it backwards. That's your problem.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    "Any racial inequality in outcome". Which part dont you understand?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Abilities are not intelligence. You can claim that IQ measures anything you want. The only thing you CANNOT claim is that they measure intelligence. And that's what this debate was about. I appreciate your help in proving my point.

    So... @dixon76710 , as you see.... even those on your political side of the issue agree with me.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you agree with Kendi. Great! Then my case is made.
     
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    IQ tests measure your ability to answer a question correctly. There are numerous factors that affect that ability.

    The basic problem with IQ tests is they only measure the ability to answer those specific questions. The ability to reason through higher mathematics is of little use to a person trying to survive in a jungle. Likewise, the ability to survive in a jungle is of little use to the person trying to solve a difficult engineering problem. Each requires intelligence and there is no way determine who has the higher intelligence of the two.

    One should spend some time around rednecks. They might be considered ignorant by some, but when you look at what they accomplish with the tools at hand is sometimes amazing.
     
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    But we do have IQ tests to measure IQ.

    Its not an assumption but is instead the results of testing. AND Blacks are also on average taller, longer arms and legs, more muscle mass, denser bones, greater lung and heart capacity and the men have higher levels of testosterone.


    That would be the erroneous assumption that CRT applies to any racial disparity that negatively impacts blacks.
     
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    IQ measures what IQ tests. That is intelligence. Background is irrelevant and is not tested. You're still confusing cause and effect. You should stop with the bad logic. But you won't.
     
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    Nonsense. Individual racism simply isnt considered systemic racism. They still consider it to be racism.
     
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    It meets all the requirements of being a public school. From its about page: LINK: About – Democracy Prep

     
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    CRT assumes that racism occurs at the individual level, even when the white person isn't aware of it. Read the preface to CRT: An Introduction, and you will see you're wrong.
     
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    What BS. CRT doesnt view individual racism to be systemic racism. They still view it as racism.
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    You're smearing public school teachers with stuff about charter schools and generalizing about schools, public and private, from individual examples. There are more than 100,000 public schools in the United States, fer crissake.

    Our schools have enough difficulty getting and retaining quality instructors. People who bash teachers for their political ends are making the job even less attractive.
     
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    No, I posted an article proving that public schools are pushing a book that does EXACTLY what I said they were doing.

    Move the goalposts all you want, that's on you. This book teaches that white kids should be ashamed of being white. It is pushed in public schools. That is now fact. Ergo, I'm correct, you're wrong, and now you're trying to move the goalposts.
     
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    Thanks. @dixon76710 Here is yet another right winger who disagrees with you.

    Need I say more?
     
  24. LangleyMan

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    I figured you were thinking along these lines. Where's your evidence?
    Their culture is a product of the larger American culture.
     
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    Charter schools may or may not be run by school districts. They're all funded by government, right across the country.
     

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