Marine demands senior leaders accept 'accountability' for Afghanistan, gets removed from position

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  1. HB Surfer

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    That is what a hero sounds like. He's a brave man and deserves everyone's respect for doing what he knew would cost him his career to let it be known that the leadership has failed us all.

    I would have more respect from the Biden Administration if there was some firings at the top of Intelligence, State Department, and Military.

    It's a good thing we have been focusing on CRT and LGBTQ rights in the military.
     
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    Do you have anyone SPECIFIC in mind?

    Or...
    Do you advocate for an en masse resignation of the entire Biden Administration?
    In which case, at this time tomorrow, the POTUS wouid be Madame Pelosi?
     
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    In reality, it may come down to who objectively examines the evidence.

    "The usual process by which criminal charges are preferred (initiated) and referred (directed) to a general court martial demonstrates a collective decision-making process. Typically, several levels of military lawyers are present throughout, providing commanders with advice as to the evidence and recommendations regarding charges and disposition. Commanders possess both positive and negative prosecutorial discretion (i.e. commanders decide whether to charge or not charge), and judge advocates possess a degree of negative prosecutorial discretion (a judge advocate cannot be ordered to prosecute a crime in the absence of probable cause)."

    I would be in that court room pounding the evidence suggesting that he was "duty bound" to expose what may have been treasonous actions by the Chief of Staff by allowing the State Department to make the primary decisions regarding a military base and millions of dollars worth of arms and munitions.
     
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    No military leader would evacuate his only air support when he has 100,000 people to evacuate with an advancing Taliban. And the President sets the constraints under which the military draws up plans and evaluates options.

    But I am sure the coward Hiden will try and shift as much blame as possible.
     
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    I admire the man.

    In a sane and civilized country, the military should consist of many more like him.

    He took one for the Constitution. They all take an oath to do that. He is one of the rare ones willing to speak truth to power and take the consequences.
     
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    I think a lot of us would like to know the answers to his questions.

    I guess accountability ends with the LTC...
     
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    Truly despicable...
     
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    Um.... do you think the fired officer could get an ad campaign with Nike? He certainly risked a helluva lot more than the dirtbag that represents Nike now.
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    Maybe he was ingrained in the other thing drummed into every recruit. You NEVER EVER LEAVE YOUR PEOPLE BEHIND.
     
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    The joint chief said they prepared three plans and Biden choose to the one that left in the middle of the night, leaving Americans citizens to fend for themselves.
     
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    Your response is Right Wing Rhetoric

    President Biden's efforts resulted in over 122,000 evacuated in less than a month under the toughest of circumstances

    A Job well done Mr. President !
     
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    LOL, to paraphrase Biden. We only left behind 10% of Americans that wanted out.

    This was a major cluster by any measure.

    20 injured soldiers and 13 dead. Bravo Biden.
     
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    I wish I was shocked you weren't upset Biden per his words, left 10% of Americans that wanted out behind. Of course last week he promised he wouldn't leave them behind but don't worry he's working with the taliban to get them safely out now and he promises this week they'll get out. lol.
     
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    They can't handle the truth. ;)
     
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    That is a court-martial offense.
     
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    how about we remove any senior leader that is upset the war ended and wanted it to continue on... Starting with Congress, vote them out Republicans
     
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    Republicans wanted how many more soldier to die trying to get out 100 people that choose not to get out when the getting was good

    America will work to get them out, diplomatically now, that is what they choose
     
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    agree, it went better than many expected, good Job to all involved
     
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    Biden screwed it up to begin with so your concern is misplaced.
     
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    Such an alternate reality the Biden defenders are in. Can’t even admit this was a total fubar.
     
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    NPC.jpg

    And there you have it...
     
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    Under which article in the UCMJ?
     
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    I feel the whole war was a fubar and Bush should never of started it

    But, Biden has finally ended it, about time
     
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    Just about every congress critters would disagree with you on starting it including Biden who now changes his story.

    Biden created a catastrophe of epic proportions. Only the politically biased won’t recognize that.
     
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    yes, Bush was the decider, he made this a 20+ year war, it should have just been a air strike that bombed a bunch of their stuff in retaliation
     
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