Trump could be blocked from running again, former White House ethics boss says

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  1. dairyair

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    None of those nut cases ever made it to the presidency.
    But as you admit with your whataboutism, is a president of the USA told his nutcase supporters that attended a rally did tell them to fight.
    In fact, 23times in his speech where he wanted to stop the Democratic election process.

    And they actually tried.
     
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    Ethics boss? What is ethical about that? Let all who want to serve come forth before the voters and present their platform. If elections are fair and true, and the media can be trusted, then charlatans pose no threat to the republic.
     
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    Politicians always… As in “always”… reference the term “fight” when speaking about their agenda. Fight for women’s rights, Fight for equality, Fight for gun rights, Fight for reproductive rights and so on. He did also mention to go express themselves peacefully. The whole context does matter.
     
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    Can you find another speech referencing to fight 23 times within it? I seriously doubt it.
    Riling a mob is what trump does the best. Trigger words.
     
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    Trump can definitely motivate. But to claim only those words you choose to edit away from the rest of the context of the speech is the the only words that matter is crazy talk. That’s like someone claiming MLK sought to seek violence with this quote.

    “The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.”

    it’s completely petty to think that.
     
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    I suppose you thought Trump was trying to push violence when he said this to.

    “Don't just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table.”
     
  7. dairyair

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    Since the crowd he incited to fight went to the capitol to over stop the democratic election process of our nation and some wanted to Hang VP Mike Pence, mattered greatly.

    They certainly didn't go there to peacefully stop the election process as evidenced by the storming of the Capital.
     
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    I don't remember that as part of his incitation speech on Jan 6. Can you link that quote?
     
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    I was going to see if you could call it and you basically did. Kudos. That wasn’t a Trump quote it was an Obama quote.
     
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    Most did not enter the capital. It was a fraction of people who did.
     
  11. dairyair

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    So you lied? And now admit you did.

    You know, I googled the quote 1st? And knew your post was a lie.

    President Obama to Barnard College: "Fight for a Seat at the Head of the Table"
    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...t-obama-barnard-college-fight-seat-head-table

    So you are not to be trusted in a debate. Got it.

    Was that speech to incite a mob and used the word fight 23 times in the speech to incite a mob.
     
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    Oh, that makes it ok. Got it.

    How many have been arrested so far? 600?
     
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    At least googles your friend :)

    the point is every politician out there has used the term fight. Trump used it as well and also
    Told them to do it peacefully. So if words matter then so does his words of peacefully protest
     
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    Google certainly isn't your friend.
    The point is you lied about who made a quote.
    And you forget trump said fight 23 times in a speech to incite a over throwing of a democratic election process. And you are here defending over throwing it. And post a lie about quotes on top of it.

    It can't get any more dishonest. A terrible way to make a point.
    Have a good night.
     
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    It's weird, because I think you are right, that they fear Trump could actually win. On the other hand, I don't think Trump could win. Nothing will have changed to enable a Trump win in 2024, so I would think Democrats would welcome a Trump run. But they sure are not acting like it.
     
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    Human nature is to remember the good ‘ol days, so Trump can run and win. But I don’t think he will run. He would be better in a leadership role like being the head of the RNC. When was the last time the RNC went out into the public and discussed the differences between capitalism and socialism? Or for that matter said anything to anyone other than “Give us money so we can do the same dumb things again.”
    Trump has a role coming up. And like his personality, it will be big. And the louder the detractors, the more marginalized they become.
     
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    LOL. That's the very same thing you thought in 2016.
     
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    Then why are you already campaigning against him?
     
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    LOL, you're funny.
     
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    There are plenty of people that would want something like that. I don't blame them.
     
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    A want is not an indictment or conviction.
     
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    “Trumps rising sea lifts all boats”
    “Biden’s quicksand sinks everything equally and equitably”
     
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    If the Majority of America knows better, We would not want Trump as our president ever again.
     
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    OK my mistake but there are still those that don't want Trump as President, because of what happened when he was President.
     

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