Georgia Black Man Charged with Murder Claims He Shot at White Teens in Self-Defense

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    I wrote "If self defense case wins, the truck driver can be charged with murder"
     
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    She can yell whatever she wanted to but it’ll NEVER mean you can shoot her and claim self defense. Words from strangers are NOT violence and can’t physically hurt you. Are you being serious?
     
  3. ButterBalls

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    In this state it's illegal to shoot from a moving vehicle, out of a parked vehicle on a public road, dirt of asphalt or off the vehicle/crutch. I would have hit the binders, came to a stop and used the car and the doors as a shield. I mean the guy had a gun, most cases brandishing it is enough to send the cowards running. As I have posted, shooting from a moving car is easy enough if you're just capping off round, but placing that round accurately at a target, pretty damn tough, and I have done it 100's of times at dirt/road signs :)
     
  4. ButterBalls

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    And I simply said/asked

    And stated facts.

    As I say, all depends on how the vehicles are positioned, only a moron would just randomly empty a 18 round clip *9mm* in to a vehicle full of people.. Reminds be of the gang bangers drive by shootings..
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Nope, this is clearly what the leftist call "A idiot with a gun" :)
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Remember the guy stopping is armed, takes balls to exit a vehicle and face a man with a gun!
     
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    So you brandished and pointed a loaded gun because of high beams, you sir should not be allowed to own a gun ;)
     
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    Question would be, did you feel the need for a weapon and would you have used it knowing now that really didn't amount to much more then body and paint work :)
     
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    The question is whether or not his force was necessary and justified. Which it obviously isn’t. Millions of people every day get cut off by aggressive drivers. You can’t shoot someone for cutting you off in traffic or coming close to your car. That’s preposterous.
     
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  10. zalekbloom

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    Here are my predictions:
    People who defended Kyle Rittenhouse will say that the Georgia Black man is a bloody murder, and people who criticize Kyle Rittenhouse will say that the Georgia Black man acted in self defense.
     
  11. Vote4Future

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    But what about the people on each side of the Ahmaud Arbery case? I believe those defendants were guilty and I believe this man is guilty of many charges, to include murder.
     
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    Since she was not driving...........she could be IMO don't know that particulars of the law on that. If someone was attacking you with a knife and shot at them but hit someone standing next to them would that person be a vicitim?

    I wonder if the defendant proves the self-defense if the driver can be held responsible for the girl's death in some kind of manslaughter or something since he would be ruled as to have caused the incident.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    I think a key to defense will be whether or not they tried to run him off the road first.
     
  14. HurricaneDitka

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    Maybe you forgot, but Kyle Rittenhouse was doing the "move thing". He was running away from his first attacker. Pedo was chasing him. In the subsequent attacks, Kyle was again running from the attacking mob until they knocked him to the ground.
     
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    I don't think there are any "keys" to this defense, because it's not going to work. From what's been made public so far, it sounds like a road-raging ******* shot a girl (the passenger!) in another vehicle he was having a tiff with. That's not okay. That's not self defense. He's going to go down for murder.
     
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    Me personally? No. But just because I likely wouldn't doesn't mean nobody else would be justified in doing so. Based on the information about this particular incident in the OP I wouldn't have reacted the way this guy did either. Discharging your firearm out of the window of a moving vehicle on the highway is reckless in my opinion and not something I would do if someone was attempting to swerve me off the road. Granted the guy claims something hit his vehicle and he believed they were shooting at him. If true that gives a little more justification to return fire but still that's not likely something I'd do.

    It's not so much it being simply property damage but rather the scenario where this played out being on a highway from a moving vehicle. I am 100% in favor of defending one's property with deadly force though.
     
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    I am not a lawyer and I judge legal cases differently – what I would do if I was in defendant situation? I would use firearms does not matter if an assailant tried to hit me with a stick, carrot or skateboard. I think it was stupidity that put Kyle Rittenhouse in this situation, but in the US stupidity is not a crime, so I consider the verdict was fair.

    The case of Ahmaud Arbery is a little different – these guys followed him and there were 3 of them - Ahmaud Arbery was one, so the use of firearms was not necessary. But there is of course question what I would do if someone tries to take by force my rifle. I want to believe I would ask a friend to help me before shooting.
     
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    this is the world many on the right has been advocating for
     
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    Snotloller. So I can get road rage, claim the guy tried to run me off the road and shoot and kill him? Have you people lost your ever loving minds?
     
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    so if a cop accidentally shot a passenger sitting behind the driver, it's murder, they should only shoot the driver?

    trying to run a car off the road with a dangerous weapon, then tossing things at them can be considered attempted murder
     
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    agree
     
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    If they indeed tried to swerve him off the road, he has a claim to self defense. If they were just shouting, no.
     
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    Disagree vehemently. The key is if they can dox the jurors, intimidate the jurors, get BLM protesting outside the courtroom and threaten to burn down the town. We are swiftly moving from rule of law to mob rule. Where the facts of the case are kind of irrelevant and the threats that the mob can bring determine the outcome.
     
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    Not a plausible one. His (not terribly credible IMHO) "I thought the loud noise meant they were shooting at me" claim is probably a better path to argue self defense, but it probably won't work either.
     
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    These are the last few paragraphs of a (rather biased in favor of the defendant) buzzfeed article:

    The judge, who has seen more of the evidence than any of us have, thinks he was probably just a road-raging a**hole who murdered a teenage girl because someone in the vehicle she was riding in said something mean to him.

    Go ahead and make him your #BLM cause celebre though.
     
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