Moderna says an omicron variant vaccine could be ready in early 2022

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    But why does it affect heart tissue? Why not some other tissues?
    And thank you for your answer! It really is great to have someone who really does know a few things about the issue. I’m on the skeptical side in regards to mRNA vaccines for now, but think in about 10-15 years we will take them if needed.
    By the way, is there a reason why Chinese have coronavac, a vaccine developed the traditional way, while Americans do not? I would rather take a western version of coronavac over an mRNA or viral vector vaccine. If we had traditional covid vaccine you wouldn’t see so much resistance to it. I already had covid and would be willing to inject even live covid virus just to get the “anti-vaxxer “ label off my back.
     
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    Sounds to me like this is EXACTLY the kind of variant we want to become the dominant strain. "mild symptoms none hospitalized + more transmissibility" means we will all get the ****ing thing and our bodies natural immunity will take over.

    **** the vaccine. And stop with the panic people.
     
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    Waiting on the inevitable panic squad to declare the white African doctor as a quack racist -far right- Nazi while exclaiming that we need to "wait and see" if those infected end up exploding with long term side effects like your penis may or may not fall off or something.
     
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    Have you ever asked yourself why or how they could have this "Omicron" "vaccine" ready to go soooooo fast (within a few months) when it otherwise takes numerous years to prepare a vaccine for human use??

    Doesn't that raise a red flag for you??
     
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    No, no we don't. We have immune systems for a reason. We don't need to continuously inject ourselves. However, maybe the people who are continuously injecting themselves are ruining their immune systems to the point where they WILL need to continuously inject themselves in order to survive??
     
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    ... is it even REAL??? I would start asking THAT question about all of these supposed "variants" (They are claimed to be variants of variants, which isn't even possible)...
     
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    They can shove any mandates of it up their ass too... If they try to mandate vaccines as a condition of employment, then I will refuse to work, plain and simple.

    Think you've seen issues now?? Just you wait until a bunch of decent people like us simply refuse to work for leftist tyrants... Apparently that's what leftists want, so grant it to them I will do if they "poke the bear" too hard with this mandate bullshit, as I will NOT be complying with it.
     
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    Yup... I didn't look at the link, but I remember that under Trump, they were screaming that they wouldn't get it since they didn't trust the "Trump vaccine", but now that Trump is out of office, they suddenly trust it and wish to mandate it on everyone. **** that.
     
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    Still beats driving over innocent children like that black supremacist hate-crime-committing career criminal did in Waukesha... No, I'm not going to let that story die, and I'm not going to ignore that it was a black supremacist hate crime that targeted white children.

    How ****ing disgusting the leftist who incite such racism and hatred are, enabling and supporting this type of behavior, and constantly lying about it in their media coverage. "A car did it... accidentally"... A car did it MY ASS!!!!! No, a black supremacist hate-crime-committing career criminal PURPOSEFULLY did it, and he PURPOSEFULLY targeted white children, and he was only able to do it because local DEMOCRATS are very soft on crime, especially when it involves black people, because they are racists.
     
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    Funny thing the human body. While I have zero allergies to any food or meds and not affected by tuberculosys, the simple touch of someone having gotten the BCG test (those 4 needle scratch on your arm where they check the spread 24h after) is enough for me to get an identical rash somewhere on my arm... Since nobody is the same, people can react differently. This is also the reason that when they advertise a drug on TV, the list of side effects is longuer than the list of benefit.
     
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    Oh, idk "DOC"..... maybe all the people DYING from them?? Getting myocarditis from them? Getting strokes and blood clots from them?? Getting bells palsy from them?? etc. etc..

    An outright lie on your part. (see above)

    It's not "rare", dude... look at the VAERS reports and how such reports have absolutely skyrocketed from any other prior year.

    An absolute ****ing lie and you know it.

    VAERS is not an "anti-vaxxer site". Please stop misinforming people.

    LIE. Autism seems pretty long-term to me, for one example. See my other examples above with regard to the COVID jab for a few more examples.

    LIE. Autopsies of vaxxed people are finding spike proteins everywhere in the body. Maybe what was injected into the body possibly degrades away, but the spike proteins that were instructed to be produced most certainly do not "within a matter of days"...

    How do you know this, when it hasn't even been two years yet?

    No, it isn't.

    Calling people names is not an argument, dude, nor is it a professional thing to do, "DOCTOR"...

    LIE. (see above) ... And wasn't the point of the jabs to "keep antibody levels high"?? Now you're trying to tell people that more jabs can possibly LOWER efficacy??? Yup, just keep "making it up as you go along", "DOC"...

    LIES, as I have addressed prior.

    LIES, as I have addressed prior.

    I would never in a million years allow you to be my doctor.
     
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    Yes.

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    I don't believe you.

    You'd make a great snake oil salesman...

    Insulting the intelligence of others is not an argument, "DOC"...

    ... and the typical leftist "storm off" whenever someone outwits you... classic!


    No argumentation presented to respond to.
     
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    Weird announcement in the sense that is suggests that new "formulation" is needed when there is no proof of it.
     
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    You'd think that a "doctor" would be asking these questions, but he isn't...

    To be more technical, antibodies don't actually remove anything. They are simply "markers" or "flaggers"... They mark cells for destruction... It is the white blood cells (such as "killer t cells") which bring about the actual destruction of those marked cells.

    Also, the spike proteins apparently aren't "being removed" if vaxxed people are being autopsied and those spike proteins are being found all over the place.
     
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    I got the first two shots as early as they were offered and with the first one there were no side effects. With the second I had one draggy day, just a bit slow and tired. I got the booster last week and I got sick. I hurt all over, had low grade temp and went to bed early. My reaction seems to escalate with each exposure and I'm not at all sure I will take another shot. It was very flu like. I'm not antivax but I am anti mandate and I think we all have to weigh the advantages and risk that is involved, and there absolutely is some degree of risk.
     
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    You expect me to believe that 1 in 2 people are getting myocarditis from COVID infections?? hahahahahahahahaha

    Myocarditis is NOT "mild and transient" dude... It's quite serious...
     
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    Actually a highly contagious but very mild variant would be beneficial, because it would infect lot people without killing them (or making them sick), and they would gain immunity, - at least temporarily.

    I have an idea...don't take the freaking vaccine. You are here every day shrieking about the dangers of the vaccine and telling people to not take it. What do you care if others want to be vaccinated against a virus that killed 800 000 Americans and crippled the economy?

    No you don't

    Yes, those who take it, take it every year. Those who don't take it can get the flu every year.

    Any particular reason you feel people would speak out the things you invented?
     
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    Then there's absolutely NO reason for you to get a vaccine, as you already have lifelong natural immunity. Do you get a flu vaccine after you get the flu?? Do you vaccinate for chicken pox after you get chicken pox??

    Don't worry about it, even if you aren't an anti-vaxxer... I personally embrace the label. Don't let it bother you; that's what leftists want it to do.
     
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    That doctor is obviously a white supremacist, anti-vaxxer, anti-science, and a far right conspiracy theorist. ;) ;)

    Oh wait, I forgot about flat-earther...
     
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    Don't forget she's a bigot and a pedo. Gotta get them all in there so that she's cancelled REAL GUD!
     
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    What does that even mean? You mean why would I suggest that certain people would use shitty false labels to cancel anyone who isn't jumping on the fear mongering wagon?

    Now where would I get that idea from?
     
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    Sure. You can become a welfare moocher, and rake in $350 a month.
     
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    You seem to harbor an illusion that you matter to us or the economy. Sorry but you don't. I don't either. Want proof? When both of us dies, the world keeps on going.
     
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    Yes, why would you pre-emptively put inane words in other people's mouths? Why would anyone call the doctor a far right- Nazi for sharing info about Covid? Its silly.
     
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    Omikron can reinfect people who have had covid already. So there's no insured immunity for future variants.
     

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