3 killed, 6 injured in shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan

I'm going to have to disagree a little bit. In the caveat that laws only work when they're sensible. And if they're not sensible everybody breaks them because they should it is their civic duty. The government shouldn't use that power we only let them have to overstep their bounds. Think about the alcohol prohibition or the prohibition of marijuana.

To inconvenience people who haven't committed murder who won't commit murder because of people who commit murder is absurd.

If you can make a law that would stop all murders from ever being able to have guns or any weapons of any kind I'm sure 100% of the population would support that.

I think one very important thing would be not too glorify these people but because our media isn't really about news it's about entertainment and selling advertisements they have to get as many people watching so therefore if it bleeds it leads. Some of these people do this just for the notoriety.
[QUOTE[
However, the only stop gap that might work is addressing how and why legally owned weapons are not secured at all times when not in use. How are these kids accessing these weapons if they were secured in a gun safe?[/QUOTE] a 15-year-old we can figure out how to open a safe? There's probably thousands of hours of tutorials about it on YouTube. I think bigger stop gap in the more important one is placing the child's well-being at the forefront of your life. It isn't normal everyday kids that do this otherwise it would be normal and every day. It is Disturbed broken and angry kids that do this. I know plenty of people that had access to firearms when they were 15 and they didn't go on a mass murdering rampage why is that?

I completely disagree you need more than a millisecond of rage. I own guns and I carry a gun and I've been furious nobody around me has ever been shot to death by me so it requires more than a millisecond of rage it requires murderous intent motive and opportunity like every other crime in the history of humanity

so then why are more people killed with knives than by all rifles combined, why are people killed more by hands and feet than all rifles combined? Why are people killed more with a blunt object than all rifles combined?

I understand it's easier to in somebody with a firearm that's the purpose of them but that isn't what happens.

first I'm sorry that people you knew committed suicide. A person intent on killing themselves it's probably going to succeed. So the way to prevent that is to get help. Maybe leave your guns with a friend or sell them a lot of people that are suicidal keep a gun handy because they want to use it. I'm sorry people have such demons. But I shouldn't be encumbered in owning a firearm because of this.

Well the solution to the problem is obvious it is far from simple it is far from easy but it is obvious. We have a culture that feeds on this. You have a culture that doesn't intervene. We allow abuses we glorify mental illness. We bicker with one another because we don't agree.

The problem is people and it always will be. This has been a problem throughout every civilization throughout all time.

To think if we just stopped bickering that the problem with magically solve itself isn't the way it works it is through bickering through listening to other people and dismissing other people that we learn more about ourselves and about the people we share this world with and that gets us closer. And that's the only way.

I'm sure everyone in the world would love the idea of waving a magic wand and fixing all the the social ills people have but we don't possess that ability. So we have to communicate bickering happens when people don't listen. Generally speaking people don't want to listen they want to think they have all the answers.

So the problem and the solution exists inside of the skull of every human being on this planet and the only way we discover it is through this process.

 

Apparently Cars can be more deadly than a gun. The recent car attack killed more than this one. It’s not about the gun, it’s about the culture of murder. A murderer has many options other than firearms. There are plenty of countries with stricter gun laws than our own that still have high rates of murder.

As for punishing the original owner. You’ll be punishing more than them. The only way to do that is to create laws that criminally holds them liable. In other words, gun storage laws. Laws like that will limit the response time of self defense in the home as well. This could cause deaths as well.

 

By someone who murdered their parent to obtain their firearms.... and when he attacked got stuck in a ****ing shooting box for a solid 30 seconds when he could've been filled full of copper jacketed lead except none of the employees at the school charged with protecting those children were able to be armed.
Why would it?

 

It doesn't say how the kid got the gun. Why do you assume he had "free access"? You realize its far more likely he bought the gun illegally?

 

You should've stopped at the statement I have emphasized. I can think of several just off the top of my head, but I don't want to spoil all the fun you'll have researching this topic so you can actually speak with authority on it. Off you go then you little scamp.

As to suicides: if you knew people you knew were suicidal, you should've had them adjudicated mentally unfit. Then they would've had no access and by your logic wouldn't have killed themselves. But I guess its just so much easier to demand all other citizens suffer than for you to take legal action.

 

Uh.... not how that works at all. I'm pretty sure you run a civil war era gatling gun into that crowd at the same angle (dead on) you're going to get that same count.

 

More inexcusable violence in Joe Biden's America.

 

Except earlier you admitted you did not know at all. Because you hadn't looked it up. And the fact of the matter is different than you present.

Hell Sandy Hook: Those guns were stored right, the kid waited until the mother was cleaning them and MURDERED HER FOR THEM.

 

I blame stupid Xoe and the Dems. They say every election cycle that they are gonna come and get our guns but they never, ever do. Remember Beto during the televised debates say….yes we are gonna come and take your guns.
Stupid Xoe also said he was gonna get them as did every Dem on the debate stage. Except…..except..mayor Pete.

it’s Xoes fault. He’s to blame.

 

Or through theft. Hell, for all you know the parents of this kid had the guns in the safe but the kid was smart enough to figure out a 4-digit pin number. Its not that hard you know. I used to figure out 4-digit pins when I was a kid playing games for crying out loud.

When you start letting your emotions make law then you have failed society.

No one fondles a gun. Thats just your hyperbolic emotional rant.

 

agree, also say Republican in congress that attack victims in person of mass school shootings are sick and should not be members of Congress

the poster did say "ANY sort of common sense gun control."

I think we can all support common sense gun control - though not sure would prevent cases like this as this was probably daddies gun

 

That's false.

 

gun ownership is a right. Given the harm by voting Democrat, and that affects all citizens, should we simply discard any Democrat vote?

 

Vegas shooter used his bought and paid for guns.

How about teaching? Long before gun safes became a thing, or even school shootings, people left their guns lying around the house and kids never touched them. Why? Because they were taught better.

It takes mere seconds for drano to kill someone wanting to commit suicide.

Then stop focusing on an object and start focusing on the issues causing all of this to happen. Poor education. Mental issues. Poverty. All of those are good places to start.

 

This is Dems America.

Not shocking considering the amount of division sowed by Democrats.

Its a shame so many have to get hurt like this.

Its hard to imagine people exist that actually want to get rid of the second amendment, in light of the violence the left causes its clearly necessary to be armed to defend yourself.

 

Name one gun that a civilian can own that can shoot 50 people in 5 seconds. Don't worry, I'll wait...

 

Again, name even a single common weapon that a civilian can own that can kill 50 people in 5 seconds. You aren't going to see anyone running around with a civil war era gatling gun...

 

Now you're moving the goal posts. Your original comment was "Darrell Brooks ran over 50 people and killed 6 in 5 seconds. No gun on Earth can kill or injure that many people in 5 seconds..."

As for a gun that can kill or injure 50 people in 5 seconds look to the M134 Minigun made in the 1960's which could shoot out 100 rounds per second. If even half of those bullets hit 1 person each that's 250 people that were shot in 5 seconds.

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MG42 could

 

Let’s standby and see what color the perp is first. If he’s white, MSM will headline it for weeks to come. If it’s a brown person, MSM will bury the story by this time tomorrow.

 

Again, you will not see a single civilian in the entire United States carrying around either a minigun or an MG42. Meanwhile, anyone can run over a crowd of people instantly in any vehicle...

 

You are again moving the goal posts.

 

or, and I know it’s a crazy idea, but we blame the person who did the crime?

 

Exactly. We used to have gun racks in the back window of our pickups in high school. And how many school shooting were there? Zero. Because we didn't have rap "artists" rapping about slapping hoes and doing drive-by's...

 

A mini gun isn’t even attainable for 99.99% of the population. Who would spend 200k on a gun, and then take it to mow people down? That’s a rich man’s toy. Even the most hardcore gun enthusiasts in the country will never see, let alone own something like that.