Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

@Grau , the least you could do is just admit that the quotes cannot be verified.

Every link you have provided does not provide place, date or time that Bibi supposedly made the statement.

You also don't have a name for the supposed witness to Bibi statement.

So we don't have a name for the source we don't have a location for where the statement was made we don't have a date we don't have a time. Even you can admit this is pretty lame.

 

You didn't even bother to read the Mandate.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/text-of-the-british-mandate-for-palestine

Plenty of states had been founded on someone's else's lands, nobody cares.

Whose land was Palestine prior to the British mandate?

 

Prior to the Mandate, it belonged to Turkey. Much of the land was privately owned by wealthy absentee landlords, and other parts were public land. The Brits and Jordanians made an honest attempt to register the private land to the farmers who leased & worked the land, but the Israelis immediately stopped this practice.

 

Nope.

Most of the land - some 80% percent - was the property of the Ottoman sultan before the end of WWI.

Your post doesn't make sense. How could Israelis, who didn't exist during the Mandate, stop anything taking place during the Mandate? How could Jordanians, who didn't exist until 1946, make any kind of attempt to anything prior to their existence? How could Jordanians, whose country was created by the British east of the river Jordan, make any kind of attempt on the territory of the British Mandate west of the river Jordan during the Mandate?

 

The Israelis stopped in 1967 what the Jordanians and Brits had been doing from 1918 to 1967.

 

The Brits had been registering land to the land-leasers from 1918 to 1949. The Jordanians did the same thing from 1949 to 1967.

The Israelis stopped the practice in 1967, cause they didnt want any more land being registered to Arabs.

 

Please note the salient paragraph..
Nothing shall be done to "disturb" the current residents of Palestine.
A day after independence, Israel displaced 700,000 Palestinians.

 

@Grau , you already posted these. They do not link to an actual source, name, date, time etc. The original source remains unknown. The JPost link doesn't work.

Your quote remains, baseless & unverified.

 

Ok @Grau, if you're sooo confident that the quote is real, who is the original source????

what's his or her name????

what's the date and time of the Bibi quote?

hmmm????

 

Why would they waste their time on something so insignificant? It's not as if that alleged Netanyahu quote is all over the mainstream media every day.

 

You know as well as I do that the original source is Netanyahu himself.

He was overheard by a CIA agent making the quote during a 2002 meeting between with Jonathan Pollard, the Israeli spy whose treachery cost America $ Billions and endangered countless Americans.

The name of the CIA agent who heard Netanyahu make the quote remains anonymous only because the CIA like all intelligence agencies does not publish the names of its agents.

The quote is legitimate no matter how much you dislike the truth it exposes.


Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”
https://tobefree.press/2017/04/19/n...he-united-states-it-can-dry-up-and-blow-away/

“Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.”
—Netanyahu, the prime minister of “Israel” to Jonathan Pollard upon exiting Pollard’s jail cell., [1]

1. ↑ Hoffman, Gil (2009-02-10). “Kadima wins, but rightist bloc biggest”. Jerusalem Post. Retrieved 2009-08-11.

 

The Jerusalem Post article no longer exists.

The so-called "source", is anonymous.

That means this supposed quote is totally unverifiable. Shocking.

Looks like, sounds like, smells like bullshit to me.

Maybe next time post a quote from Bibi that is actually verifiable. I know more than a few.

 

It's precisely because of Israel's army of paid, trained and scripted Hasbara trolls that the Netanyahu quote is not better known. If it were not for them and America's pro Israel MSM bias that quote would be common knowledge.

Perhaps it would be helpful to read up on the Israeli government funded Hasbara / propaganda initiative, its Hasbara Handbook, its Act. IL App (1) and the 15,000 paid, trained and scripted Hasbara Trolls that pollute the internet to better understand how anything negative about Israel is repressed.



"How An App Funded By Sheldon Adelson Is Covertly Influencing The Online Conversation About Israel"
"The Act.IL app paints itself as a grassroots initiative, but one expert calls it "advanced digital political astroturfing."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ishmaeldaro/act-il-social-media-astroturfing-israel-palestine

EXCERPT "The same user left almost identical comments on the Facebook pages of CNN International, Canada’s Global News, Iran’s PressTV, and Nigeria’s Channels Television. Hers were among the most-liked comments on all five news organizations’ Facebook posts. While the engagement appeared organic to those on Facebook, the comments and resulting likes were in fact part of a coordinated campaign to flood social media with talking points defending Israel’s actions in Gaza." CONTINUED

 

Silly, baseless conspiracy theory that you of course cannot prove and most likely will not even attempt to. Move on to things you actually can prove and support with evidence.

#SadAndSilly

 

Anyone with even a modest knowledge of Israel - Palestine events is aware of Israel's army of paid, trained and scripted Hasbara trolls that infect not only Facebook but all forms of media and US Mid East foreign policy.

I encourage any reader interested in Israel's sophisticated propaganda network to simply Google "Paid Israeli Hasbara trolls" and see to what degree it is a: "Silly, baseless conspiracy theory".

"The War on Truth: How Israel's social media trolls conquered Facebook"

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...raels-social-media-trolls-conquered-facebook/

The Trolls
EXCERPT "According to a document obtained by the Electronic Intifada, the Israeli government has funded a "global influence campaign" with a massive budget with the sole aim of influencing foreign publics and combating the Palestinian Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS).

Writing in EI, Asa Winstanley, reported on a "troll army of thousands" that is "partly funded by the Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs".

"To conceal its involvement, the ministry has admitted to working through front groups that 'do not want to expose their connection with the state,'" Winstanley wrote.

One such troll group estimated to include 15,000 active members, is Act.IL.

Writing in Jacobin Magazine website, Michael Bueckert describes the main function of Act.IL app users:

"With the mobile application and online platform Act.IL, Israel aims to recruit a mob of slacktivists and trolls to join their war against the most insidious forms of violence: pro-Palestinian tweets and Facebook posts."

Act.IL is only the tip of the iceberg of a massive, centralized effort led by the Israeli government and involving legions of supporters around the world." CONTINUED



"Inside Israel’s million dollar troll army"
https://electronicintifada.net/content/inside-israels-million-dollar-troll-army/27566

EXCERPT "A global influence campaign funded by the Israeli government had a $1.1 million budget last year, a document obtained by The Electronic Intifada shows.

Act.IL says it has offices in three countries and an online army of more than 15,000.

In its annual report, from January, Act.IL says its goal is to “influence foreign publics” and “battle” BDS – the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement for Palestinian rights.

Through its app, Act.IL issues “missions” to this troll army in exchange for “cool prizes” and scholarships." CONTINUED

 

By doing what exactly?

 

Israelis stopped what? What exactly had the Brits and Jordanians been doing, according to you, from 1918 to 1967? It's not clear from your posts. Do you have a source for your claims?

I know the Brits tried to settle as many Arabs as they could on lands destined to the Jewish national home during the Mandate, forbidding Jews to settle anywhere in Judea and Samaria and expelling in the process those Jews who already lived in Hebron, Gaza, or Silwan.

Jews who purchased land from absentee landlords paid compensation to the tenants, or gave them land. Read the Peel commission report.

 

"Disturb"? Where?

First thing first: "the current residents of Palestine" included Jews. There was a sizable Jewish population in Palestine - in Jerusalem, Hebron, Gaza, Safed, and other places. And no, "disturb" doesn't appear anywhere in the text of the Mandate.

Second thing second: the part that had to preserve the rights of the existing population were the Brits, not the Jews.

Third thing third: the "Israel displaced 700,000 Palestinians" narrative is wrong on two counts. First count: Jews were called Palestinians then, not Arabs. It's like saying that the Roman Empire conquered France. Second count: Arabs left Palestine for various reasons, including fleeing the war initiated by the Arab states and their British enablers. The whole "bad Zionists made good Arabs leave" narrative has been thoroughly debunked decades ago. See Benny Morris for instance.

 

November 2nd, 1917 Dear Lord Rothschild, I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet. "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country." I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation. Yours sincerely, Arthur James Balfour

 

Yep.

What were the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine in 1917?

 

Those guaranteed under British law since Palestine was a British mandate.

I suspect something like "don't invade a recognised land and don't turn people out of their legally owned homes". Something like that.

Which is why Israel held off declaring independence until he moment the mandate ended. They didn't want any time to pass for Palestine to become a legal state of its own and reclaim the rights given in the Declaration.
and because the declaration legally had terminated, Israel had no duty to respect it.

Look. I have nothing theoretically against Israel. But let's be honest even where the country isn't.

 

Palestine was not a British mandate in 1917. It was under British military occupation, not under British civil law.

What recognized land? What land was that, recognized by who, recognized as what?

Israel didn't hold off anything until independence, since Israel didn't exist prior to independence. Palestine did become a legal state on its own - the Jewish state. Arabs got the bigger part of the British mandate - Jordan.

 

Jordan was part of the British Mandate for like 3 years.

 

No, Jordan was never part of the British Mandate. The territory of Jordan, a country that has never existed until 1946, was included in the Mandate for Palestine. The British gave this territory to the Hashemite rulers from the Arabian Peninsula, breaking in the process the international law generated by the Mandate entrusted to them at the San Remo Conference.

 

The Brits were very clear in their White Paper issued after the Balfour Declaration, that not all of Palestine would be a Jewish State.

The Brits and Jordanians registered land to the Arabs who worked it, from 1918 to 1967. Israel stopped this practice when they took over.

Jews were forbidden from settling in "Judea & Samaria" by the Brits? Says who???

Prove your claim