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To be fair though .. what they're seeking isn't collectivism, it's the opposite. They're seeking an 'every man for himself' existence, funded by Big Govt. The rest of us are seeking independent, property-owning, small-holderism.

 

That sure sounds easy, but reality is much different. Telling drug addicts they need to stop using drugs is like telling violent criminals that they need to stop using guns to commit murder. Basically, the punishment needs to be much worse than the crimes they are committing as a deterrent, give um a slap on the wrist and they'll do it again, throw them in jail for life or execute them, that will get their attention and they'll think more than twice about doing these crimes again, but namby pamby Liberals want to coddle these creeps and whisper sweet nothings in their ears and then unleash them upon society to commit their heinous crimes against innocent people again and on and on the cycle goes.

 

Tell me you are not proposing government programs to end loneliness and social isolation.

Illegal drugs flowing across the border is a criminal law enforcement problem. The people that refuse to deal with the problem are liberals who do not want to secure our border. Your statement about partisan hacks, bad people using drugs should die etc. is a strawman fallacy.

Can you actually address the issue raised in the OP which was allowing illegal drugs to come into the country? That is address it without deflection or a strawman. Should we control our border. Yes or no?

 

Americans will never give up drugs, booze, cigarettes, and guns.

 

We have to attack this Fentanyl problem or we are going to **** over Gen Z even worse than we have already. This is a direct attack by China on our populace and it needs to be called out. Caught with intent to distribute that crap should hold a massive prison term. Life should be the term for any of the top distributors and up to the Cartel scumbags willing to let this poison flow.

 

Easier said than done imma fraid. Unfortunately big pharma has conditioned people to always be taking something and the more you take, the more you need to take, and then when the doc cuts you off, you go to the streets.

 

the war on drugs has created new artificial drugs, there is a new meth type drug out there that is causing much harm

time to end the war on natural drugs

 

nope, just like alcohol, how many stills do you find in the woods nowadays? how many children die from accidentally stumbling upon a still?

 

committing crimes on drugs is illegal, that would not change with legalization, alcohol is legal too

the abuse exists legal or not, prohibition just made criminals of those that did not abuse

prohibition means people do not know what they are really buying

 

Death is only bad when its guns or coronavirus. All other death is normal.

 

Government policies got us into this mess. Government policies will get us out of this mess.

That’s a terrible question, simple as that. Did it ever dawn on you that trying to control something means that we will end up encouraging more bad behavior? And that sometimes the best thing to do is to let them go free? I say, why not loosen border regulations to let people go back and forth across the border even easier. With this as well, encouraging safer drug usage. Fetanyl isn’t a problem if you know how much is in the drugs, and if you can safely use it. So promote safe usage around drugs. Treating the border as a security threat doesn’t work. But as a political problem? It does.

 

i think you’re missing the point I’m making. Libertarians who espouse these values end up making the principle of no harm meaningless. Pointing out the obvious here.

 

Not enough money is made off illegal alcohol so stop noping things you don't understand.

 

Never said it would be easy.

 

Treating drug addicts is the answer not punishments. The US can start by looking at how other countries are dealing with drug addiction.

 

Putin's fault. Or Trump...

 

not enough would be made off Marijuana if it was legal either, you're proving my point

heck, cocaine used to be in coca cola when it was legal

 

There's nothing loving about enabling failure. It's ALWAYS an act of selfishness.

 

Nope.

The only cure is prevention, and prevention means tough love.

 

Yes, Govt polices which enable rejection of personal and social responsibility.

What's missing is the kind of society which shuns & shames.

 

Payback for the destruction opium caused in China.

 

Yep. She certainly is!

Wants people to be able to **** up their own or their family's lives, then demand Govt relieve them of the consequences. At the expense of those who didn't **** up their lives, of course.

You can't make this stuff up.

 

You know how China handles drugs and drug dealers? The death penalty. You know who doesn't have a drug problem? China.

 

And just how will the DNC stay in power? Never going to happen Sir!

 

Gen Z is the most drugged generation ever. Look out below. It's gonna get ugly.