US smashes grim drug records death for the 6th month in a row: Newly-released figures show that 106,

So! everytime there's a Gun shooting, Sleepy Joe and the rest of the Democrats scream for gun control, but when 106,000 Americans die ( 80% of them Black) from drug overdoses from this poison fentanyl they allow flow across the Mexican border with Illegal Aliens like water through a fishing net, they're silent and allow it to continue. You'd think they'd be screaming systemic racism, since the bulk of these deaths are Black and that BLM would be screaming for more Riots and Mansion Donations, but that's only saved for when a White cop kills a Black criminal thug. Yup! good job all you Liberals who called Trump xenophobic for wanting to ban travel from China into the United States, which in turn made the Pandemic much worse, but you've also made the Fentanyl Poison problem much worse with your Open border policies.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...-drug-overdose-deaths-November-2020-2021.html

Remember when Biden said any President who allowed 200,000 Deaths from Covid 19 to happen, shouldn't be President, Well! look who shouldn't be President

 

And sadly, there is a fix, however this administration refuses to see it. The reason people are fleeing Central and South America is because the US is funding these cartels at an alarming rate with the rampant drugs coming to America. Stop the free flow of drugs into this nation, you at least help starve the cartels.

 

Yes. They don't actually give a damn.

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28% more Black Americans die of constipation than die from being shot by police while unarmed:

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So then we need to support drug policies which we know will work. Like needle exchanges, and places for people to use drugs in peace and safety. Furthermore we need to end other epidemics like loneliness and social isolation, which have serious health effects as well.

Or we could be partisan hacks and refuse to deal with the issue because "bad people are using drugs, so they should die". Deal with it as a public health crisis, or don't bother at all.

 

Agreed. Let's stop the partisan hackery and work together to fix the issue. The first and easiest steps would be that we agree that the rampant flow of fentenyl, heroin, cocaine and meth from our southern border needs to stop. Secure the border and choke out the cartels ability to get filthy rich from US citizens. I also agree that we need to bring back mental institutions back as we have a severe mental health crisis

 

If we do that though, we would probably also want to support Mexico's efforts at getting justice from US gun manufacturers who help supply cartels with cheap firearms. We can't just stop at drugs, we have to stop cartels and their violence at the source by limiting their access to firearms. But even then, that won't deal with the rampant drug use. Fetanyl is just a symptom of a larger problem. We need to change the culture around drug use in general away from getting high, but instead for relaxing and enjoying things. As for mental health? Yes, those will be good but we also can't ignore the socio-economic problems that created the mental health crisis in the first place. We need higher wages, better working conditions, and a return to walkable cities.

 

So! basically we need to build the Wall, secure the border and that way Mexico won't get cheap guns from the USA and the USA won't be getting all kinds of deadly narcotics and unvaccinated illegal Aliens carrying sickness into our country. Sounds like a good way to save some lives, so let's kick the stupid Democrats out of office and get this done. Drug addicts can't die, if the drugs they die from can't get into the United States.

 

1) Zero tolerance is the only way to deal with drugs.

2) Loneliness is a choice. Social isolation is a choice. Those having a problem with it need to fix themselves. Not Govt's job - never has been, never will be.

3) No, deal with it individually. There is no other fix but individuals wanting to fix themselves .. whether their drug habit, or their disinclination to do the hard work of retaining a functional family/community.

 

The mental illness epidemic in the West is a result of TOO MUCH everything, not too little.

We have become spoiled babies, too lazy and self-indulgent to protect our social contracts.

 

Nah.

I'm a Libertarian. You want to drink yourself to death, not my business. Clog your arteries with fast food, that's on you. Smoke crack, your risk.

Why does everything need to be a collectivism issue?

 

Ywah and if everyone wants to drink and then hit other people with their car the poor “victims” should have bought anti-drunk driver barriers to shield them.

 

The proper way to solve this problem is to legalize drugs, and put actual drug companies in charge of manufacturing them. If I buy cocaine made by Pfizer or Merck, I will have complete confidence that there is zero fentanyl in it. Humans want mind altering substances, it's innate to our species. Telling us we can't have them is not going to make them go away.

 

Nope. You just moved the goal posts to try to defend your collectivist desires.

You had to introduce another person and create a victim.

We were talking about people who elect to do drugs. That in and of itself is not and should not be a collectivist decision nor problem to solve. Once a drunk gets in a car and endangers or injures others, that's something different.

My issue is why you feel the collective needs constant interjection into individual choices?

 

You are the one who literally quoted me, another person. You brought me into this. Don’t spread collectivism by including other people in your political ideology.

 

Yeah. That makes no sense. As is usual.

 

Look the definition of politics I use is the flow of power. Power flows between people. If you’re talking politics you are always going to be bringing someone or something else into it. It’s it that I don’t make sense. I just don’t know if you thought out your arguments as well as you think you did. Are you really saying the rules only apply to yourself and will never involve another person?

 

I'm saying that by and far, our politics in general and often in your defense, are based on a presumption of collectivist intervention. The concept of individualism is secondary to the idea that living in society mandates everything is both judged and controlled by others.

It's half the problem. Too many Karen's and Chad's walking around thinking their truths should be mandated on everybody else.

Your post about our collective responsibility to solve every perceived problem of an individual who elects to start using drugs validates that point.

I believe people should largely mind their own business, especially when in comes to politics and mandates.

 

Yeah this is what I’m talking about. I don’t think you have thought out your argument. You are forcing people, regardless of beliefs to live in your world. For example you label me “collectivist”. That’s what Karen’s do. Are you implying by labeling my position as “collectivist” that you are a Karen? Again I don’t think you know what you arguing.

 

I'm not government, and I can't mandate.

Nice try at the 2nd grade level "I know you are but what am i?" Nonsense.

 

Geez ...

No, that's NOT what a Karen is. So far as I know, describing your own viewpoint based on your posts is not being a "Karen" as @jcarlilesiu is not calling on the mods to police your behavior or posts. Labeling you a collectivist is what someone following your own arguments does.

You ARE a collectivist. I can't think of any other descriptor for someone who wants to police loneliness and social isolation other than to call in society on what individuals do within their own homes.

 

Besides securing the border, we should have the Navy interdict the container ships going to Mexico from China. Find the fentanyl, escort the ship to port, offload the legitimate cargo, empty the fuel tanks from the ship, tow it out to sea, and sink it.

 

Reread my definition of politics and see if I mention government.

Have you even tried to read through the responses before posting? Because you would have realized jcarliesu used the term “Karen’s and Chads” to refer to people who mandate how other people should live. Me calling out Jcarilesu for not realizing by pushing for her beliefs that she was mandating them on others, is perfectly fine to do.

 

Hard truth people: The country is becoming an utter cesspool and there is nothing we can do to stop it. Make money, move as far away from these shitbags as you can, live your life and don't worry about a doomed future you have no control over.

 

There is a fix, Americans need to stop using drugs.

 

Drug cartels will always be able to sell drugs cheaper. Pretty much the same way China makes cheaper goods than the US which includes the cost of shipping.