Dem senator warns Supreme Court of 'revolution' if Roe v. Wade is overturned

Why are you just sitting there and ignoring the part where he said you would "reap the whirlwind" and called them out by name?

It's okay to be partisan many of us here are to some degree or another but there are others like you who are Uber partisan.

Just please don't disrespect me by blowing smoke up my ass and pretending you're not.

If Trump said that you would be blowing a head gasket having a stroke and a heart attack all at the same time.

Not only do you and I know that but anyone with a gram of honesty on this entire board knows that

 

I always call the police when someone threatens that I will "reap the whirlwind".

 

The assumption is that they are racists. Some are. Some are not.

The men are the type of people that every woman known to me would like to have in their house during a break in. Not necessarily in their bed. Not necessarily.

*Cough* What? I didn't say nothin'.

 

That’s a weird thing to say. What do you call an advanced state? I don’t see nearly as many homeless and pan handlers here in Florida then I saw in any other state recently.

Everybody is doing what makes sense to them economically. I bet you always do things that benefit you most, as long as you are within your personal ethical boundaries. If a farmer profits most from producing corn, then what should motivate them to produce something else?

 

That should not factor into their thinking in any way, that is an issue for the legislature, the Court's role is to interpret the law as best they can according to the texts involved.

 

How many leading Universities do you have? How many physics colleges? How much industry and high tech? How much agriculture, fresh water and natural resources? How often has Florida led the charge for critical change?

Not true. I have dedicated most of my life to helping save the planet; often at great personal expense.

Obviously I'm not as shallow as your typical Floridian or Nebraskan.

 

Does NASA count? 5 or 4 nuclear power plants? Intercity rail between Miami and Orlando will be completed soon, after that they’ll throw in connection to Tampa. When I’m driving around this state, almost all infrastructure I see, like bridges, looks brand new. Water management here is truly impressive - almost all ponds and swamps are connected, with drainage connections leading to the ocean and the Everglades. They build houses here to withstand a category 5 hurricane. Last year was my first summer here and the first hurricane that zipped just west off Tampa caused ripped off roofs and a lot of flooding up north, while here it was just a rainy day with no standing pools of water, and no apparent damage anywhere. Water management infrastructure here is mind boggling in its scope. I see this as someone who moved here from Chicago and every bridge in there looks like it’s about to collapse.
Florida is a very advanced state.

You can’t expect everyone to be an activist. People live their lives and need to feed their families. Some people are space flights controllers, others are toilet cleaner, and some grow corn for a living - as long as they are law abiding citizens, every effort at supporting own existence and independence is worthy of respect.

 

Text and historical meaning.

 

They are calling for Insurrection.

Quick Look at U.S. Code Makes Jen Psaki’s 'Answer' on Targeting Justices

Lawless Paid Liar
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"Psaki repeatedly refused to condemn the planned “protests” outside of the Justices homes."

“When pressed on whether President Biden thought it was okay to target Justices at their homes where in some instances there are small children, Psaki said “I don’t have an official U.S. government position on where people protest. I want it — we want it, of course, to be peaceful. And certainly, the President would want people’s privacy to be respected. But I think we shouldn’t lose the point here …”

Actually, our nation DOES have an official position on this: "the U.S. Code on demonstrations launched in front of the homes of judges and anyone involved in court proceedings with the intent to influence their decision:"

Well, I hold them in contempt and the Court is free to as well.

 

You have no understanding of how to save the planet if you think Californian’s outsourcing carbon emissions is a good idea. Very little of what you believe is based in reality as we’ve seen with your comments on California agriculture. It’s scary people with so little knowledge of carbon emissions and agriculture (especially water use in California) believe they are saving the planet!

An example with water use in a state (CA) in water crisis is the expanding almond industry. Almonds use the most water for unit of production than any CA crop. Almond growing is expanding based on profitability, however almonds account for 25% of revenue but account for 43% of CA water use footprint. Again, what a bunch of dupes. Using up scarce water resources chasing dollars while ignoring the environmental impact of doing so.

I guess your criticisms (ad hominem) of others more knowledgeable than yourself falls flat again. Please leave the care of the planet to those with knowledge of how to care for the planet.

 

OK. So, now it's bad to protest? It's "calling for insurrection" to exercise your 1st Amendment rights? Silly hyperbole.

You know what an attempt at an insurrection looks like? January 6.

 

You can’t be real. You’re claiming Florida is not a leading state. I’m sure you would claim California is but how many citizens did they lose and how many did Florida gain again?

 

Then surely it is up to the p9ice to move the protestors on. What exactly have these protestors been doing apart from standing around holding some signs?

 

Well, they've been protesting a leaked demolition of rights. Surely, that's a crime now. Surely, that's "insurrection" now.

It's funny how the RNC thinks that attacking the Capitol Building is just dandy and "legitimate political discourse", but non-violent protests are "crimes" and need to be prevented. It would be the height of stupidity to give the incredibly hypocritical GOP the House or the Senate again.

 

They’ll be getting it again and should get it. The current leadership is inept. I also don’t believe the GOP ever supported the events that took place on Jan 6th. Find me where leadership said it to be okay.

 

One in three women in the USA have had an abortion. If those women vote this November……….

 

We can hope for sanity to make a return. I remember when you could talk to and negotiate with Republicans. This isn't your grandfather's Republican part, though.

This version of the GOP does nothing to govern; it's culture wars all the time, and no solutions to problems are offered.

It has no business getting its scabby hands on the reins of government.

 

Of course. Just like when any court decision doesn't go their way. Riot!

 

Ha. "It's REALLY Mueller time now" right? What a joke.

 

The saddest part of this are those women who will die over the next few months. Not just from backyard abortions but from medical hesitation as the ill thought out legislation is rushed into place. Doctors will be afraid to intervene in case they are jailed for murder. Mother who suffer miscarriages will be charged with murder and incarcerated and women who are addicts will stay at home to have their babies in case they are charged with child endangerment. This does not even start to account for those who will see backyard abortionists

 

Yes! The GOP has become a complete joke

 

Yup.

And "George" hasn't read the Mueller Report. I have. The really bad joke is that he hasn't read it, and yet ignorantly makes derogatory comments about a road map of illicit dealings with the Russians (e.g. the Trump Tower meeting) and obstruction of justice. Because the GOP allowed the scumbag to skate doesn't mean it was magically acceptable.

A take on "It's a Wonderful Life": How much better would it be if the incompetent and self-dealing Orange Man hadn't been born?

 

Donald Trump told them to walk to the Capitol and that he would join them. He also told them to "fight" for him. And local GOP kooks fueled it:

https://time.com/5930185/republican-party-trump-capitol-mob/

Ali Alexander, the organizer of the Stop the Steal movement promoting President Trump’s baseless conspiracy theory that widespread voter fraud cost him the 2020 election, tweeted on Dec. 7, that he was “willing to give [his] life for this fight.” The next day, the Arizona Republican Party’s official account retweeted Alexander, with the note: “he is. Are you?”

Less than a month later, on Jan. 6, pro-Trump rioters overtook the U.S. Capitol by force, smashing windows and forcing lawmakers into hiding in a violent insurrection that resulted in the death of five people, including a Capitol Hill police officer. In the aftermath of the violence, Republicans have scrambled to distance themselves from the mob. The Republican National Committee condemned the attack and on Jan. 13, 10 Congressional Republicans voted to impeach Trump for his role in inciting the riot.

But the vocal backlash belies a much more uncomfortable reality: the Republican Party —including local, state and federal lawmakers and elected officials, and dozens of local Republican Party chapters—actively supported the Jan. 6 rally, both logistically and by leveraging their institutional platforms to promote falsehoods and encourage Trump supporters’ grievances. More than two dozen Republican lawmakers and other elected officials personally attended the rally, and at least one was caught on video storming the Capitol building during the riot. Many of these Republican Party members remain fervent Trump supporters and continue to repeat and amplify his baseless claims.

Dozens of local Republican Party chapters used their social media platforms to promote bus trips to Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6, according to reviews conducted by TIME and social media posts collected by media watchdog group Media Matters for America. Numerous posts encouraged Trump supporters to go to their state and federal capitol buildings to “fight,” “take America back,” and even “occupy” the government.

Several official Republican Party accounts, for example, posted a promotional flyer that referred to the Jan. 6 rally as “Operation Occupy the Capitol” and included slogans like #WeAreTheStorm, which are used by QAnon conspiracy theorists. The same flyer was found in fringe rightwing internet circles where the term “Operation Occupy the Capitol” had become something of a rallying cry, says Julie Millican, the vice president of Media Matters for America.


A screenshot, captured Jan. 15, illustrating a post on one local Republican Party chapter's Facebook page
“This is a call to ALL patriots from Donald J Trump for a BIG protest in Washington DC! TAKE AMERICA BACK! BE THERE, WILL BE WILD!” read Dec. 28 posts on both the Facebook page of the New Hanover County GOP in North Carolina and the public group for the Horry County Republican Party in South Carolina, promoting a bus trip from Willmington, N.C. to Washington, DC.

“FIGHT BACK! Stop the Steal MAGA Bus Trip… Tell Congress – DO NOT CERTIFY THIS VOTE,” also read a Jan. 4 Facebook post from the Bergen County Republican Organization in N.J. The post encouraged supporters to contact the Lodi Republican County Committeewoman to join a group bus trip to the Capitol on Jan. 6. Tickets were $65.00.


Republican lawmakers and other elected officials, including state senators and representatives, state school board members, mayors, town councilors and sheriffs from at least 18 states, also traveled themselves to D.C. on Jan. 6, where they tweeted and posted on social media in front of the Capitol. Just before the protests turned violent, U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona tweeted, “Biden should concede. I want his concession on my desk tomorrow morning. Don’t make me come over there,” with a photo of the thousands of Trump supporters on the national mall.

Republican state Sen. Amanda Chase of Virginia, who is also a gubernatorial candidate, gave a calm but conspiracy-laden speech to a crowd assembled outside the Capitol ahead of the rally. In previous days, she’d shared contact information for groups helping Virginians travel to D.C., according to a screenshot of her now-suspended Facebook page collected by Democratic super PAC American Bridge.

A few hours later, just as rioters were ransacking Congressional offices, Republican state lawmaker Daniel Cox of Maryland tweeted, “Pence is a traitor.” Cox also helped organize buses for his constituents to attend, according to local news site Maryland Matters.

In perhaps the most extreme example, newly-elected Republican State Del. Derrick Evans of West Virginia live streamed himself on Jan. 6 gleefully pushing into the Capitol building, surrounded by a group of other cheering Trump supporters. And while Evans resigned on Jan. 9 after he was arrested for his part in the riot, plenty of other Republican officials have defended their attendance on Jan. 6 and fought back against attempts by colleagues to censure them this week, signaling that they will continue to be an important part of the Republican Party even after Trump leaves office on Jan. 20.

‘It wasn’t something that was supposed to be acidic’
Like some prominent national Republican lawmakers, many of the state and local Republican party officials who promoted the Jan. 6 event later denounced the violence. In interviews with TIME, they claimed they did not know about, or approve of, plans to breach the Capitol building.

Vincent Sammons, the county chairman of the Republican Central Committee of Cecil County in Maryland, who promoted what became a 15 bus trip to attend the Jan. 6 rally through a post on Cecil County Republican Club’s Facebook page, says he did not intend to fuel a riot. “It wasn’t something that was supposed to be acidic,” he told TIME. “It was something that was supposed to be a rally to motivate people to get their voices heard… you know, trying to express your freedom of speech.”



A view of Pro-Trump rioters in front of the Capitol in Washington, D.C. on Jan. 6, 2021.

Christopher Lee for TIME
Other local Republican leaders also emphasized that their Republican Party social media platforms were only used to help grassroots organizers’ efforts to support the President. Several Republican officials denied offering financial support to the protesters and described their role as simply helping to fill buses.

In Greenville, S.C., Kaaren Mann asked a friend with the Greenville County Republican Party to promote her bus trip on the party’s Facebook page and email list. In Ohio, Cathy Lukasko, auxiliary chair of the Trumbull County GOP, posted a flyer seeking attendees for a private bus trip that was shared on the Facebook pages for at least three counties’ GOP chapters before she combined forces with another Ohio Republican activist to fill a bus. The Northern Kentucky Tea Party, which advertised a bus trip that left from a local church, according to a since-deleted web page saved by American Bridge, filled two buses in a similar manner. Jane Brady, the Chairwoman of the Delaware Republican Party, posted about what became a three bus trip on the party’s official Facebook page. In more than half a dozen interviews, local Republican party members and Republican organizers maintained that they were not aware of anyone in their groups committing violence.

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Pro-Trump rioter uses a Capitol Police shield to break a window of the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.

Christopher Lee for TIME
Phyllis Schlafly Eagles—a group launched by the former president of Schlafly’s longtime group Eagle Forum amid infighting in 2016—promoted the event on its website and social media, likening the rally to D-Day in one post, according to research provided by American Bridge. And Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and Students for Trump, claimed, in a since deleted tweet, that he sent more than 80 buses to the event, according to Kristen Doerer, the managing editor of Right Wing Watch. (A Turning Point spokesman later told the New York Times that the organization sent just seven buses to DC.)

The leaders of those organizations belong to the highly influential conservative political organization the Council for National Policy, which has close ties to the Trump administration and whose past members include former Trump White House staffers Kellyanne Conway and Steve Bannon.

The Trump Administration will come to an end next week, but security officials say the threat presented by the President’s fanning of conspiracy theories and anti-democratic fury will remain. The extremism that leaders in Washington now say threaten American democracy have permeated all levels of the Republican Party. “The concern that we have from a security perspective is that this problem doesn’t go away with Trump,” says Neumann.

State and federal law enforcement officers are preparing for potential violence from rightwing extremists and militant Trump supporters before and during Joe Biden’s inauguration.
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There's more to that article. But there's also this----the GOP, after the initial shock from the attack had worn off and the fear of being held accountable kicked in, they've been lying their asses off and white-washing their complicity and treason. **** them.

 

I'm not ignoring anything, I'm only noting that your characterization/interpretation of Schumer's speech
is merely your hyperpartisanship, framed to forward a right wing narrative, one not based in truth, but in partisanship.

In short, it doesn't change anything.

You omitted the relevant parts from my quote, which I'll repeat, since you are the one IGNORING what was written:

You claimed that Schumer threatened violence.

So, finally, we find out the basis of that assumed premise, and what do you produce?

A video of Schumer telling the right wing of the court that if they rule against R v W, 'you won't know what hit you'. (and 'whirlwind' etc etc)

is that a threat of violence?

No, it's a generalized emotional plea which can easily be translated as:

Republicans are going to pay for this.

How are they going to pay?

At the ballot box and by the cry of women across the land.

Did democrats seized the capital, or the SCOTUS building, because of this speech?

No.

Did republicans seize the capital because of Trump's speech?

Yes.

Apparently the difference eludes you.


Schumer, unlike Trump, doesn't have a history of using ACTUAL terms of violence. Trump has.

Schumer's heated speech, unlike Trump's, never inspired violent action by democrats. Trump's speech did precisely that for republicans.

As if (you are not hyperpartisan), i.e., not a strong argument.

Posturing is not a valid argument, it is a non argument.

Posturing is not a valid argument, it is a non argument

Posturing is not a valid argument, it is a non argument.


In case you don't know what posturing is, there are many variants. The bottom line is where a debater finds, often emotional words' designed to puff the debater up above that of his opponent, giving that person the mistaken idea that his argument has been made stronger.

No, it just reveals weak debate skills. It's a pseudo debate trick, and an old, tired, one and often used by novices.