Abortion ban amendment shot down in Kansas doesn't bode well for Repubss

Actually, I don't want the government involved at all. I just want people to make responsible decisions, and that requires a firm moral foundation.

 

Then you might like what they did in Canada. It's all but impossible for a healthy woman to get a doctor to abort a healthy fetus as a matter of medical ethics. School sex ed courses include information on contraception and responsible attitudes toward partners.

 

Yep. That will teach the "slut."

Egads. Women (and men) just have to keep at it.

I won't live long enough to see it, but women will get there.

 

Fair enough.

 

Humans are wildly sexual. Hardwired for it.

 

Why aren't you going to live long enough?

 

A baby is potentially a child. A child is potentially an adult...

Potential doesn't apply as an excuse to kill something that's growing

 

Representatives elected by the majority, the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, i.e, Majority rules, that's how it works. Not to mention like many states have ballot initiatives, like the amendment to the state constitution in Kansas that was shot down by the majority in Kansas, that's how it works.

My use of 'popularity contest' is just a metaphorical way of saying 'majority of the electorate', and/or 'a majority in the state legislature'.

 

If you are arguing that in a pandemic, which threatens the health of the nation, a vaccine mandate, which does give a choice, is abuse of power?

That is a sick argument, literally.

Why aren't you complaining about driver's licenses, medical licenses, attorney's bar licenses?

Why aren't you complaining about dress code mandates in numerous high end restaurants?

Why aren't you complaining about no clothes mandates at nudist camps?

I could go on.......but, why bother.

 

they could have fixed / replaced Roe with one that asserted 15 weeks.

they didn't, they intentionally repealed it knowing that many states would ban it.

No doubt Mississippi will soon. It was the reason they brought the suit to the court, so they could repeal Roe. This idea that Mississippi is sincere about a 15 week parameter, I don't buy it. I won't doubt that soon Mississippi will ban it, as well, as most of the other Red states. However, what happened in Kansas might give them a second thought.

 

Okay, I have criticized the woke, left, on this. However, the hard left's crazy is no match for the mainstream crazy on the right.

We had a pandemic, the health of the nation was being threatened, doing otherwise would have been irresponsible.
The economy got a shot of stimulus by both Trump and Biden, and was saved. Prices are coming down. Gas is $4.65 in my city in CA.

What war would that be? The Iraq war because of 'WMDs' Bush and Co bamboozled the nation and congress to approve?

Evidence, please. I think you are twisting a story, here.

That's a bogus narrative. Crime dropped drastically under Obama. Hate crimes when up under Trump. All the BLM riots happened during Trump.

That's a false narrative.

Vague narrative.

The greatest transfer of wealth accelerated under Reagan, and the Wealth Distribution Tables at the Federal Reserve prove it. This is largely the result of right wing neoliberal policies, and Bill Clinton was also a neoliberal. Neoliberalism is still largely in place because no republican Senate will allow it to be reversed -- until Biden using the BR process to bypass Republicans.

The right pays lip service to 'small government'
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3464091-on-the-trail-the-era-of-big-government-republicanism/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/25/how-conservatives-learned-love-big-government/

They don't give a crap about America. Look at who they elected? Donald Trump? He's the most vile, corrupt, abuser of the office of the President who shat on the constitution and all around despicable human being ever to hold that office, not to mention in his last year he attempted to subvert the election, inspired 'stop the steal' which erupted as a juggernaut of rage to attack the capitol, where several people died, one officer lost an eye, 140 people were injured, all of whom would not be injured but for Donald Trump, and when he left office, he stole sensitive classified documents which led to the raid on his home today. Trump give himself and his cronies the biggest tax cut in history, he bilked the US Taxpayer out of millions for his entourage staying at his hotels, not to mention this:

https://prospect.org/mapping-corruption-interactive

and this:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

Give me a break. Republicans are a runaway criminal enterprise, Republican administrations commit the vast bulk of crimes, as evidenced by the number of indictments and convictions:

 

This is the argument of someone who likes the idea of a strong central government run by tyrannical political elite. Thank God we have a Constitution to prevent that, and, even more, a Supreme Court determined to protect that Constitution.

 

What happened in Kansas was good for dems. Not sure what you mean by 'cut us off at the knees'?

 

Women will not cede it to the government over their birthing children.

 

They don't have to. Every woman in this country can get an abortion if they want one.

 

That would still be an overturning of Roe that asserted 2 trimesters

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
The cause of your confusion is that you can't/won't/don't see the loss of bodily autonomy as a right....but I bet if it was taken from YOU you would object.

Women will when abortion is banned.....if you can't/won't/don't believe that then you must have no idea what "bodily autonomy" means..

 

Ya, isn't it the 21st century though ???

Why should women have to be fighting the 19th century minds of misogynists ??

 

Uh, then why are some trying to ban abortion?

Why are some irresponsible people spending taxpayer's money with all this legislative fuss when YOU claim "every woman in this country can get an abortion if they want one" ?

 

62% are religiously affiliated hmmmmm Hiw does that fit with your “moral imperative”

 

Hmmmmm - how? I mean most of the women live below the poverty line

 

Abortion will never be banned.

 

Yes, as long as we keep conservative Republicans out of major positions and are prevented from pushing their agenda this should remain true.

 

The People overwhelmingly support women's right to have an abortion. Overwhelmingly. It doesn't matter what those who want it banned think or do. Just like The People overwhelmingly support your right to keep and bear arms. The banners are as inconsequential to The People as a horse fly is to a horse.

The left wing propagandists need to make significant political hay ahead of the midterms, that is why they have you in a tizzy. If you sought truth rather than bias confirmation, you would understand better what you are seeing.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
The cause of your confusion is that you can't/won't/don't see the loss of bodily autonomy as a right....but I bet if it was taken from YOU you would object.




Women will when abortion is banned.....if you can't/won't/don't believe that then you must have no idea what "bodily autonomy" means..

What TF are you talking about?

Are you just trying to dodge addressing my post?

And it IS banned in some places...What TF ????