Putin - Russia Will Begin Partial Mobilization Immediately

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  1. AlpinLuke

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    You see Jeannette [leaving love humor aside! Anyway I love you, you know ...],
    the situation is quite complicated. I'm really near to Berlusconi and it's not by chance that I call Putin "my friend Vladimir Vladimirovich".
    During this electoral campaign in Italy some Italian important politicians are thinking to find a way out for Putin.

    Probably there is a point of disagreement: Putin wants to win the war in Ukraine. This is evident.
    His Italian friends want to offer him a decent way out from a loss - loss situation.

    But ... Italy cannot offer too much. It's time for our country to stop to change side during a conflict!
    We did it two times in occasion of both the world wars ...

    So at Moscow they should be aware that their Italian friends this time will stay on the Western side.
    What we can do is to mediate, but Erdogan is already doing that, so I'm not so persuaded that an other mediator could help.
    Personally I would leave the matter in the hands of Erdogan.
     
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    It's not difficult to be clever than this Russia ...
     
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    While I hate Putin. If he ends all this with more land and resources. Then his shallow plan worked.
     
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    We will see.
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can you say a plan to free the Russian speaking areas from a government that was imposed on them and has been killing them for 8 years so they could change the demographics is shallow? I read in a foreign news site, that one million all over Russia rallied in support of the referendums, and that many carried placards saying we will always support our own.

    You're just upset that Nuland's criminal coup and takeover of Ukraine has been foiled. Oh those poor investors. Boo hoo! Just think of how many Ukrainians were used as cannon fodder and died needlessly so they could buy up the land.



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    Foiled Again!
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're wrong, the Soviets controlled Russia and they were not all Russians. Actually it was a movement against the Russian people, and that's why 40 million Christians were killed. The Soviet international political movement was conceived during the Enlightenment by a German Jew, and was imposed on the Russian people by Lenin who was supported by foreign banks. Stalin was a Georgian, Khruschev was Ukrainian, and it goes on and on.

    Your problem is that you have an embedded hatred towards the Russians, which probably goes back to the time Western Ukraine was under the control and influence of the Austrian/Hungarian Empire.
     
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  7. ToughTalk

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    If this were about that he would have been a smart leader and offered a path of citizenship and migration to those who were mistreated in Ukraine.

    But the ****ing Hitler would rather push the world to world war 3 over land and resources.

    Sooner he dies the better the world will be
     
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    First of all I do not have any imbedded hatred of Russians what I detest is the evil Russians did to the people that I come from- My grandfathers were sent to Siberia. One survived . Khrushchev was not Ukrainian he was an ethnic Russian who lived in Ukraine. There are open questions as to who Beria was and what ethnicity was the guy who created the secret police CHEKA.
    Stalin was indeed Georgian but the people around him who he put in charge were Russian so Russians controlled the USSR not Georgia. It Georgians. If fact my dad used to say that Stalin was more Russian than the Russians. The enlightenment occurred in the 18th century and it spawned individual freedom, scientific methods, capitalism e.g. Adam Smith hardly a socialist. Who spawned Communism and it’s evil corrupted form Lenin Svietism was Engel and Karl Marx and I do not care if they were Jewish as you claim because it does not matter. I never saw any evidence that world bankers supported Lenin. Where is that proof? You say the the Soviet system was “conceived as a movement against the Russian people”. Then you say that is why 40 million Christians were killed. That is silly and unsubstantiated. Ukrainians were murdered by Stalin not because they were Christian they were murdered because they were Ukrainian and had Ukrainian nationalism and resisted collectivization and believed in small d democracy and individual freedom.

    You bring up Jews and international bankers so are you of the thought that Jews control world banks and want to destroy Russian people ? . ?That would be silly and wrong. ?
     
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    Every "anti-Nazi" starting from Hitler are aware of judeo-mason conspiracy to destroy Germans/Russians(you name it). :D
     
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    Notice how it is always someone else's fault - Jews, Germans, Ukranians, Jews, Georgians, Marxists, Jews, 'the West', Poles, the USA, Jews. Russians are NEVER responsible for anything. They are eternal victims. It is a fascinating mindset & explains a great deal about why Russia is the way it is & behaves the way it behaves.
     
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    Another wet dream.
     
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    ruZZia always was a failed state, at least since the communist revolution.
    Nothing would get worse if Russia fell apart. Many rogue states have nukes. It is how it is. :(
     
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    No. With Finland and Sweden joining NATO, he just lost the Baltic Sea, and Kaliningrad is effectively neutralized. In addition, his primary POLITICAL GOAL - remember, war is simply a means to a political end - was to prevent the expansion of NATO, and he made the exact opposite happen.
     
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    That hasn't exactly happened yet. My feeling here is that Turkey is never going to let that happen. Now Finland and Sweden have signed a joint defense act with regards to Russia so clearly they have no love for the midget.

    But let's only count eggs that are hatched here.
     
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    You have described the Russian mindset perfectly.
     
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    I grew up with some Finns formerly from Karelia & I work with someone who spent time living in the USSR. Their reports on the general mindset of Russia is consistent with each other and with observed reality.
     
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    Embrace your hatred! Like so many emotions, it leads to irrational thoughts and actions.

    On the positive side, Sleepy Joe and his handlers might give you some sort of reward. :angel:
     
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    What has to do
    paedophily with professional skills and work background? And he is certainly a person who knows the subject better then you or whoever else here in forum.
     
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    The questions about Beria and Dzerjinsky are not open. They are closed: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Dzerzhinsky
    The first one was Georgian, the second-Polish. Khruschev was indeed Russian, but the theory that Russians controlled the Soviet Union was not backed up by anything. If you look on the statistics of nationalities that have been sent to GULAG, the largest labor camp in the USSR you will find out that the majority of the prisoners were Russians.
     
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    Of the majority in Gulags would be Russians since the majority ethnic group of the USSR was Russian. After Western Ukraine was seized and the Baltics the percent of Russians dropped. Yet Russians ran the show. There were token Jews, Ukrainians, Armenians, Chechens, Georgians but tokens do not control a state .
     
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    There is a thing called reputation. And pedophilia... I would not even shake hand to pedophile, while RT is ok to take this person and make him their talking head. It tells a lot about RT.


    Because... :D
     
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    No, he is another Kremlin mouthpiece who spends his downtime jerking off to kiddie porn & fantasizing about raping little girls. If you think someone who was caught twice trying to have sex with underage girls and who regurgitates Russian propaganda has the judgement to assess what is going on in this conflict then that is on you.

    This is the guy who declared a 'strategic Russian victory' in March, claiming the Russian invasion undermined NATO and displayed Russian 'military prowess'. A few months on that set of Kremlin talking points sounds more like comedy.

    Personally I prefer to get my analysis from people who spend more time assessing facts than scrolling kiddie porn and Kremlin talking points, but I can see why he is a natural source for those who support the mass murdcer, mass rape and mass torture Russia is perpetrating in Ukraine. I'm sure Scotty would fit right in.
     
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    Well,according to a tweet these are the weapons that, at least some of them, get:
    https://twitter.com/LarsWienand/stat...90834628513792

    They are old, rusted, AKM ... with a caliber that isn't used in Russia anymore since the 1970s
    (the AKM have 7,62x39, the Russians switched to 5,45x39 in the 1970s, however)
    https://twitter.com/winkelsdorf/stat...21444700930049

    So, if the pics are genuine, the weapons may be safer (for the wielder) to be used as a blunt melee weapon, instead of shooting with it
    (especially if the remaining 7,62x39 ammo supplies are in the same shape, as the weapons themselves)

    Or, maybe even better, throwing the weapon aside and surrendering to the Ukrainians on the first contact with the enemy.
     
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    They could always pick up something better that someone else throws away. I'm betting there are a lot of AK74s in Ukraine that have never been fired & dropped once.
     
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    Because he serviced in the marine intelligent services and he was an inspector of UN on military equipment. The former means that should be able to collect and analyze the data, the latter means that he is an expert on military related issues. This has nothing to do with paedophily. Moreover, everyone know how they fabricate the cases in the US against people who do not support the US politics or represent some danger to the US. Here comes an affair of Dominique Strauss-Kahn who was also accused on sexual harrasment, but later everything happened to be fabricated. But it does not matter - the US reached its goal-it removed him from the position of the head of IMF and blocked his way to be a president of France. So I do not beleive this BS about sexual crimes of Scott Ritter.
     
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