Putin - Russia Will Begin Partial Mobilization Immediately

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  1. Tofiks

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    Are you wearing the foil hat? You know that judeomasons and reptiloids want to control Your brain thought G5 network, and only foil hat can save you from faith to become their slaves?
     
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    Klaus Schwab? Truthfully, I did not know he was a 'threat'. And he actually were, why wouldn't Putin just address the matter...uh... in a less disruptive manner? Honestly, I would not have imagined that a Swabian as old as Schwab is would be plotting to take over the world!









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    Knock off the embedded stuff that is just propaganda. I never mentioned hatred for individual Russians. Why say Soviets when there is no such thing as an ethnic group called a Soviet. Stalin and Bolshevik leader created a myth of a Soviet man. The USSR was composed of many ethnic groups but the Russians ran the show. Sure there were the token Georgian, Armenian, Ukrainian, Kazakh, Buryat, etc but the power and the orders came from from Russians. I am not going to deny the fact that the Germans were brutal bastards when they invaded Ukraine , Belarus , and Russia. So yes I believe you that German SS did what you said to your relatives. But that does not give you Russians the right to murder , rape , and torture Ukrainians in Bucha, Mariopil, etc. Russians tortured and killed children this year just as the NKVD did. Back to the SS yes I saw the pictures from WWII of the Germans hanging resistance fighters from telegraph lines in Kiyiv , Kharkiv, Zhytomir, ,….
    My extended family had according to my father Jews and an one of my fathers first cousins was married to a Jewish man who was hunted down by SS in L’viv . They caught him in an alleyway and he had two grenades with him so he exploded them and managed to kill at least two Germans but he was wounded and then executed by the SS. The story was relayed to our family by some in his group that got away. Modern DNA tests revealed that our extended family has more than just Ukrainian and it shows that they now live in Ukraine, Poland, Khazakstan and Israel. My mother was taken out of her home at age 19 by the SS. The SS came in to ask my grandfather were one of his nephews was. The nephew was with the Partizans and someone who was jealous of my grandfather told the Germans that his nephew was in the Partizans. My grandfather said he did not know where his nephew was. The SS officer pointed a Luger pistol at my grandfather then pointed at my mother and said if you do not tell us where your nephew is we are taking her( my future mom). She was thrown into a cattle car on a train and days later ended up in Heidelburg Germany and then to a forced labor camp. That camp had Ukrainians, Poles, Belaruses, and some Russias. So 80 years later Russians are doing to Ukrainians what the Germans did.
    You lament that the German SS tortured your family because they were communists. That was wrong to do to innocent civilians ( if they were not NKVD )by the Germans. Russians torture, kill and Ukrainians because they are Ukrainian. That is also wrong. Americans have a saying….. two wrongs do not make a right.
     
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    I am watching Tony Blinken, our Secretary of State is on CBS 'Sixty Minutes' right now.

    Blinken is making it quite clear, IMHO, that the United States will be at war with Russia, and possibly, China, within a year from now. Blinken's appearance has had an odd effect on me... because even though I detest Joe Biden and his entire administration, plus the America-hating, 'woke' Democrats in Congress, I realize that even if it makes all the rest of us want to PUKE, we have to close-ranks right now and get ready to wage war -- and I'm not talking about some bullshit 'brush war' like Vietnam, the 'Balkans', Iraq, or Afghanistan was. No. I'm talking about a very real, visceral, fight-for-your-life WAR.

    Accordingly, I propose that we prepare right now to support Biden, our Armed Forces, our NATO allies, and muster our courage and tolerance so that we can win this damned thing. IT'S COMING... get ready.

    Think: a lot of Americans disliked FDR greatly before World War II... they couldn't stand anything the man had done or tried to do (like really trying to pack the Supreme Court). But, confronted with real war, Americans of all stripes 'gritted their teeth', made sacrifices, reached 'across the aisle' and defeated the Axis Powers. We will have every bit as much demanded of US soon! Again, get as ready as you can, while you can. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid that I am not.









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  5. Jeannette

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    How about an opposing view, something you're not going to get from the MSM. This is an interview of Lara Logan on Radacted, who is an international award winning investigative journalist telling of our border problem as being planned by the globalists. And why not, they don't believe in borders anyway.

     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's stop it right here. Mariupol was a Greek city, so the Greek population there. was quite large, and they tell a different story. According to them they were persecuted for 8 years by the Ukrainians and during the fighting they were held as human shields. When a Greek announcer from a Western leaning media called a Greek speaker in Mariupol on live TV, he asked him why he and his daughter weren't leaving the city and he said that if they dared leave their basement they would be shot by the Azov military. That and the other stories told by those who settled later on in Greece ended the Western narratives right there. Of course, the Western medias continued the lies anyway.

    As for the coup in Kiev, I saw protesters on videos throwing Molotov cocktails at police and even hacking them because Yanukovich gave orders not to shoot back - yet the Western narratives kept telling us the protests were peaceful. So how can anything coming out of Kiev and our medias be believed?. Anyway, these lies are just the tip of the iceberg of what I had seen and read, so I wouldn't believe anything coming out of the Kiev.

    As for my relatives, I'm an American born and bred so I didn't know them. I will say one thing though, people shouldn't lick their wounds and harp on the past because it will only perpetuate the cycle of hatred. My maternal ancestors had suffered the greatest massacre in history, and yet I don't even know how my family escaped. No one ever spoke about it.
     
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    When we fought Nazi Germany, we were fighting an evil political system that was being imposed on others. The same with the Soviet Union. As for today, it's not Russia that's imposing their system on us, we are the ones who want to destroy and impose on Russia our liberalism and globalism and they are the ones who are trying to retain their heritage, culture and civilization from our attacks.

    As for Blinken, In one of his speeches, I caught him in 3 lies.
     
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    Vlad the Inept's partial mobilization is going to be as effective as a partial circumcision... beatinoff_zps3b07b48c (1).gif
     
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    Yes let’s pause here because I do my research and you are absolutely wrong about Marriopol being a Greek city . Here see this “The ethnic composition of the city (in 2001) shifted in favor of Ukrainians (48.7 percent) over Russians (44.4 percent), while Greeks continued to decline to 4.3 percent and Jews to sixth place at 0.2 percent, mainly from assimilation and emigration.”. If this was rear 200 BC maybe Marriopol was Greek.

    I will deal with your other points individually.
     
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    There was no coup in Kyiv in 2014. Younger people students and people wanting a democratic European country free of Russian influence with no corruption demonstrated against Yanupovich. Yanukovich is a traitor and a pro Putin /Russian todie. Yanukovich being a useless ball-less todie accepted snipers from Russian security services who murdered demonstrators. Russians from the Donbas were brought in who attacked the demonstrators. The demonstrators had no choice but fight back. Yanukovich had agreed to sell Ukraine to Russia and join in the Russian economic “union”. He is another Lukashenko the ball-less Belarus traitor.
     
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    That is a horrible painful image we should not go there except wish it on Putin.
     
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    Hou need to tell. Putin not to harp on the past as he is fixated on re-establishing the USSR and/or the Czarist empire. That is fixation on the past. Putin said that the collapse of the USSR was the greatest tragedy of the 20th century. Putin must have “forgotten” Stalinist and Hitlerite genocides.
     
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    Such poor reasoning as yours is very common on the internet. It seems DoD propaganda is most effective amongst the gullible.
     
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    Are any of the facts in the post you quoted inaccurate?
     
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    But, Jeannette, we are rapidly (RAPIDLY) reaching an impasse -- and it's becoming more and more clear that Putin is "all-in" for Russian victory (the President of Finland, who knows Putin well, said as much today). Putin's victory depends on being able to force the Kiev government to surrender at least the "Donbass" region of Ukraine to Russia, permanently... and although this seems inevitable when viewed from several different perspectives, the contest is likely to involve consequences inside Russia that Putin cannot tolerate and expect to remain in power. This thing started out as a 'squabble' between Slavic 'cousins', and now, thanks to the utter failure and abandonment of the Minsk Agreements of 2014 and 2015, by EVERYONE who signed-onto them, we are at the brink of a world war!

    Locked in a protracted war of pitched-battles, Putin may very well believe that in order to avoid having his own "Vietnam" scenario, he may decide to introduce his own version of "shock-and-awe" into the conflict by using tactical nuclear weapons -- and at that point, it's only a short matter of time before Russia, NATO, and possibly China, too, are conducting full-scale nuclear war.

    Now, rather than engage in a lot of bluster, cursing, and chest-beating about anybody "kicking anybody's ass", I'll simply point out that no matter whatever else happens, Putin surely must realize that his beloved 'Rodina', Mother Russia, will be utterly and thoroughly destroyed and crushed down to a level of 'hand-to-mouth' existence, probably as Russians die slowly from radiation poisoning. Sure, many large metropolitan areas in 'the West' would be devastated, but Russia, as a country, would cease to exist. Does Putin understand this? If not, then World War III is coming, and the rest of us had damned well better get as ready as we can before we all get sucked into it....








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    Mariupol was founded by the Greeks of Crimea on land given to them by Catherine the Great when Crimea was under the Ottomans. This doesn't mean that the majority of Mariupol is Greek today, but there are many of them, and they did retain their language and heritage. It's not the only Greek city in Ukraine. Actually, Greek is one of the 5 languages spoken in Ukraine. I know that 2 Greek cities were bombed by Poroshenko because they didn't go along with the fascist government and its impositions.

    When Patrick Lancaster interviewed people in the Mariupol area, the first thing they would say is that they are Greek. Later when Mariupol was freed by the Russians, they were free to go to Greece and many did.
     
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    Very interesting, thanks. Fascinating little nugget of history
     
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    You said it was a Greek city. Wrong. I do not care that Catherine “gave” away something she did not rightfully own. we York was founded by Holand that does not make it a Dutch city. London was founded by the Roman Empire as London are you going to tell me it is an Italian city since Italy is a child of Ancient Rome. Rumania was founded by Rome does that make part of Italy. We can go on and on.
     
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    Problem is that it is a bunch of Kremlin propaganda lies.
     
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    Is his trope a Russian erosion of QUANON? They need a name maybe RUSKONON.
     
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    I am sorry provable facts get you so angry and confused. That RT is the official Kremlin English language propaganda out remains a fact even if it makes you cry.
     
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    On Sept. 29 the results of the referendums will go to the Duma, and the next day it will be signed by Vladimir Putin. On October 30th Zalensky will receive an ultimatum to get his troops out of Russia. What will happen then is any bodies guess. If the Ukrainian troops are lucky, they'll be able to surrender to Russia without being shot at by the drugged Nazi guards in the rear. But I doubt it.

    Russia never abandoned the Minsk II agreement because it was never part of it. This is why Putin refused to speak to Zalensky. What Russia wanted was Ukraine to speak to the heads of the 2 Republics and start the process of decentralizing and federalizing Ukraine - which they refused to do. I know that Ukraine was supposed to start paying pensions, which again Kiev refused to do, so Russia covered them and started bringing them into their own banking system.

    France and Germany had signed on to the Minsk agreement and it was approved by the UN, yet they refused to exert pressure on Kiev - probably under orders from Washington. I say this because Nuland refused to speak to them after they signed the agreement. In the meantime, the Nazi forces at the demarcation line kept shooting at the inhabitants of Donetsk - something they are still doing. I believe 13 civilians were killed 3 days ago - but I may be wrong.


    If Zalensky does not pull his troops out with the ultimatum, which he won't since he doesn't care if the men live or die, I think Russia will do what the US does and attack Ukraine's infrastructure and especially their administrative centers. I don't believe they will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, since most Ukrainians are not sympathetic to the government in Kiev. The smart thing of course would be for Zalensky to abdicate and so a more neutral government could be formed, but would Washington allow it?

    Russia is not trying to impose its own beliefs on other nations and cultures, otherwise there wouldn't be over 60 languages taught in the Russian Federation together with Russian. It is merely fighting to retain its own Slavic traditions, heritage and civilization. The West therefore is an existential threat to them, and to the world in general, so they cannot back down. The West in contrast is fighting in order to impose its own liberal globalism on Russia because without Russia's resources there can be no one world government. We're the ones pushing an aggressive political system, not Russia.
     
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    Toh yea pravda what you said.
     
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    love it.....Jeany.....just to try and maintain something resembling reality and credibility wouldn't have been better to phrase your post something like this....

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    On Sept. 29, following the counting of the votes, the results of the referendums will be published. Should there be a majority of votes cast agreeing to the proposals this will then be forwarded for discussion and debate in the Duma. Following that debate and should the Duma agree there is a case for annexation, this decision will then be proposed to the Vladimir Putin who may sign in into law.....etc...etc....
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    something like....it just makes it look like there is actually an impartial process actually taking place and not just the usual old load of crap with the Russians once again making up any old bollox to nick a bit of land that don't have any entitlement too and have once again taken by force.

    ....or they'll just ignore it and carry on taking more of their land back whilst killing more scared pissed dejected Russian prison rejects.....
     
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    Your thoughtful post deserves a much more expansive reply than this, but at the moment, I am tight for time. But I must say this, Jeannette, it appears that Russia was, indeed, a vital part of both Minsk Agreements. In this 'Wiki' article, it says that Russia was a signatory, and that: "Russian Ambassador to Ukraine and Russian representative Mikhail Zurabov" was the person who signed for the Russian Federation. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

    You cannot imagine how much I wish it had never come to this! Prior to this horror in Ukraine, I had developed an admiration for the Russian people, and for the way they had become cooperative and willing to work together with most other countries -- particularly in the EU. I'll also admit that, having read so much about Vladimir Putin's life and accomplishments, I had both respect for him, and understanding that as a devout Russian patriot, he was definitely doing what he felt was best for his nation. Now, sadly, I see that, as much as I lament it, all is lost. Putin must step down or negotiate an END to this war in Ukraine, Jeannette. If he does not, I feel that a year from now (at most) we will all be in a war that has the potential to destroy civilization as we know it.

    If Putin would just back-off of the invasion and agree to settle for no more than the breakaway provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk, then an armistice could be achieved, followed by a peace treaty. But NOT Kherson, and NOT Zaporizhzhia! Forgive me... I must run now.









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