Electric cars and renewables are racist, says UN official

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    You can drag in your opinion about if it's fair or not. But nobody can deny that the predominantly white population has produced by far the most CO2 historically and that is causing an environmental problem now. And this is pressuring about all non predominantly white nations to not industrialize in a cheap way and stay poor as a consequence.
     
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    That is a correlation. It does NOT show causation.
     
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    There doesn't need be for this race card to be drawn, because the bottom line remains that only the predominantly white nations caused this problem for the world, and this is pressuring about all non predominantly white nations to not industrialize in a cheap way and stay poor as a consequence.
     
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    You have no indication that it had anything to do with skin color.

    You are just assuming that.
     
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    Indeed, everything is racist. Nature itself is racist. The effects of the sun's rays on black skin is not the same as its effects on white skin: Racism without a doubt!
     
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    If, in fact, this Tendayi Achiume actually said that then she is a racist idiot or maybe she just doesn't know what the terms race and racist mean? I do not believe that black people in the U.S. or Sweden are affected adversely by "electric cars and renewables". Duh! :sunnysideup:
     
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    And still, NO ONE has suggested otherwise. You mightily slayed that strawman. You can let it go now.
     
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    CRT has changed the definition of racism.

    “When I see racial disparities, I see racism.” Kendi. Full stop. Thats the end of the analysis because no more analysis is needed in their mind.
     
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    Which is why it is both useless B.S. as well as anti-scientific. It is just political garbage.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I had to look it up. Now I see what you mean. I don't know what colour you are and you don't know what colour I am but it's obvious that one of us must be darker than the other and if we were to declare which one of us is the darkest then the CRT can look at the two most recent lines we've written and find that the lighter one of us has just made a racial remark to the other.

    What a bunch of crap they are. Am I allowed to say "suck ass" on the forum?
     
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    CRT like all critical theories are not an examination of society but instead an attempt to change society. Its neomarxism.

    Max Horkheimer first defined critical theory (German: Kritische Theorie) in his 1937 essay "Traditional and Critical Theory", as a social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole, in contrast to traditional theory oriented only toward understanding or explaining it. Wanting to distinguish critical theory as a radical, emancipatory form of Marxist philosophy.
     
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    That is irrelevant. Point remains to be that the predominantly white nations caused a environmental disaster world wide becoming an industrialized society, and predominantly non white nations are pressured to not do that because of the environment and so remain poor, while being asked to work for dirt poor wages in mines so the rich industrialized nations can become environmentally friendly.

    I told you this before.
    Currently you're not denying this racial disparity.
     
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    WillReadmore did.
     
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    What silliness. No one is suggesting that any nations should not industrialize.
     
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    .. . "causation" ? you going to deny that the industrial revolution and subsuquent consumption of Fossil did not produce more CO2 .. ? can't make sense of your comment


    I am suggesting that some (non industrialized) Nations should not industrialize "at the moment" "IF" we wish to slow the rate of increase of CO2 emissions and Ocean Pollution

    What about it ?
     
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    Thats a stupid suggestion.
     
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    It might seem so to someone with no clue what they are talking about ... but why did you think reigning in industrializatioin of non industrialized populations is "Stupid" ? Are you not aware that industrialization is the main cause the increase in annual CO2 emissions from 22 Billion tons'year to 36 Billion Tons/year over the last 25 years .. with a concurrent increase in Ocean Pollution ?

    but lets hear your side of the story .. you know .. for shts and giggles :)
     
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    What stupidity. I told you in post 213 somebody did. And now Giftedone joins in.
     
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    I'm pointing out that you have NO evidence that race had anything to do with it.
     
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    So, they should take an economic hit for us, when WE got rich by creating the problem in the first place?

    I really don't understand your position. If some country imposed economic stagnation on us, wouldn't we consider that war?
     
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    I wonder why the carbon footprint predicament is squared solely on consumers and cows? I mean, there are companies out there right now that have found uses for Carbon emissions in fabricating goods such as Jet Fuel, rubber products, concrete etc.

    If we could convince manufacturers worldwide to use their CO2 emissions to produce their products, I am sure the carbon footprint will shrink.

    https://www.iea.org/reports/putting-co2-to-use
     
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    No, you missed the issue. He wants to claim that success was race linked. But, he has no evidence other than correlation (not causation).
    That is absolutely ridiculous. Attempting to suppress the economic success of some other country is an act of war.
     
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    Because you have not yet fitted the nations of the world with your reins.
     
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    I'm certainly all in favor of this direction, of course. And, there may be practical ideas coming.

    But, today the US emits about 5 billion tons of carbon (in the form of CO2, CO, etc.) per year. Trying to use any noticeable fraction of that in manufacturing, fuel production, etc. is a daunting challenge.

    Notice the number of times the suggestions in that article point to the need for hydrogen or energy in order to use CO2. Then remember that today the production of energy and hydrogen is mostly done by burning fossil fuel, which creates more carbon emissions.
     
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    Has nothing to do with me fitting nations to anything.... you have no clue what you are talking about and so now spout ridiculous nonsense.

    That industrialization caused CO2 to increase over last 25 years is a simple statement of fact .. has nothing to do with my control over the nations of the world mate. You are haveing some delusion and transferring that delusion my direction.
     

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