Nikki Haley? any chance??

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  1. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    The internet has nothing to do with it. If a video is not doctored, it actually can be used to diagnose symptoms associated with many illnesses no different than watching someone in person including dementia. It is not a substitute for a proper set of diagnostics but it can and does help showcase symptoms and to pretend or deny Trump does not show signs of dementia is pointless. He is at the point he can't speak a sentence without slurring or forgetting his words.

    By the way you might want to find out what psychological profiling is and how its used including by intelligence agencies as to politicians. The fact you are unaware of this speaks loudly. Internet is not the issue, accuracy of a video is in terms of sound and clear picture.

    Telemedicine is clearly something you seem unaware of:

    https://www.cnet.com/health/skip-th...-issues-a-doctor-can-solve-over-a-video-call/

    You want to pretend Trump has no dementia and his behaviour is cause for no concern. You and other maga followers of course will follow with him ignoring his problematic behaviour no different than people did of Hitler when his cognitive functions collapsed or many other dictators, cult leaders, religious figures.

    Maga followers one can argue if we refer to group psychology have shared the behaviour of Trump so of course they do not see it as problematic. They mimic it.

    The continuing slurred speech which has increased to the point of every second sentence could be signs of what is called Progressive nonfluent aphasia, which affects the ability to speak. It is true that this symptom can come about from a stroke drug abuse, a stroke, brain tumors, cardio-vascular disease, Parkinson's, Huntington's, MS, MD, MLS, but in Trump's case given his father had dementia, this continuing deterioration of nonfluent aphasia at 77 is extremely serious and no pretending its not a big deal is irresponsible.

    Trump displays these symptoms in person and on video to the point no one but people on this forum try dismiss them as non serious especially by deflecting to symptoms Biden shows which they will refer to while at the same time ignoring Trump's behaviour:
    • difficulty with speech and language
    • inability to concentrate
    • inability to plan
    • movement and balance difficulties
    • trouble moving the eyes
    • tremors, spasms, or twitches
    • stiffness
    • poor coordination
    • trouble swallowing
    When someone is reported to or exhibits the above behaviours its a red flag.

    In fact a gp upon finding the above would refer a patient to a neurologist and/or gerantologist.

    A proper diagnosis is not done simply on the above and no one said it would be rendered simply with the above symptoms showing but to vote for someone to hold the red button and run the most powerful nation with such symptoms without getting a proper medical diagnosis and full disclosure to the public whether it be in regards to Trump or Biden would be irresponsible.

    In Biden's case one can well assume given his advanced age he has cognitive decline and stamina issues and of course his health is a huge factor.

    With Trump given he exhibits far more problematic symptoms than Biden at this point makes it sheer hypocrisy for maggites to accuse Biden of being senile but ignore Trump.

    In fact there are three common symptom groups of Frontal Lobe Dementia (Pick's disease) which many believe Trump was diagnosed with and keeps under warps and they are:
    • Behavioral-variant FTD (bvFTD).
    • Semantic-variant primary progressive aphasia (svPPA).
    • Nonfluent/agrammatic primary progressive aphasia (nfvPPA)
    It is most likely he falls under the third cluster of symptoms but there is no one size fits all diagnosis. Each person with FTD has a variation of many symptoms. In the case of Trump its suspect he abuses Adderal and anti-histamines and some say cocaine or other stimulants to self medicate his attention deficits and other concentration issues which may be part of a pre-existing history of attention deficit hyper activity disorder as well as Pick's disease.

    If you play back interviews of Trump in the 80's and 90's, then early 2000's then with when he originally ran for office and then during and after office, the increase in aphasia is remarkable to the point of shocking. I suspect the profuse swetting, sniffing, is from snorting adderall or antihistamines or both.

    Just to be clear, adderall is the trademark brand name for amphetamine / dextroamphetamine, Its a stimulant. When used for adhd, you take a capsule orally and its extended release which means its released slowly to last about 8 hours or so.

    Having adhd when I was a young child and then teen I was given dexadrine, amphetamine for adhd. This was before the release of what is called Ritalin. In fact in my case I would go from very agitated, speeded up, unable to sit, constantly scratching myself, unfocused, to severely depressed and swetting and reflex delayed. It made me susceptible to being bullied because of delayed responses and symptoms.

    I found drinking black coffee in a small paper water cup every 1.5 hours helped and later in life ginseng but in my case for years I struggled with it until I found the anti-depressant sri uptake inhibitor drug citalopram helped slow the speediness sufficiently for me to be able to be aware of triggers. Most people with adhd have depression, general anxiety disorder (gad) and some kind of obsessive compulsive behaviour and its all inter-related. For sure, diet, exercise, meditation, yoga all can help. The reality is such an illnessi s a city disease. Let's face it had I been born on a farm the energy would have been channeled. If I lived in a third world country struggling to eat or caught in a civil war it would not be noticed.

    So all kidding aside, those of us with adhd know what it is and we have always seen it in Trump. However we also note his other behaviours and people like me do support Trump's politics yes, but I point out his symptoms are serious and if you saw them in your own family members you would be irresponsible not to encourage them to get them diagnosed and that goes with yourself as well.

    Can we please be honest, To pretend the health issues of Biden or Trump can be denied or used in a partisan manner is not the issue-assuring someone health runs the US is. I do not over-state it when I see your President's health impacts on the entire planet.
     
  2. Jack Hays

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    Yours is the common argument of those who want to excuse our faithlessness.

    ". . . Yes, we have faced challenges with the Afghan military. But it is a military we decided to build in our image as opposed to theirs. We made it a nationally recruited force as opposed to a regionally or tribally recruited force. The result was that Afghans typically didn’t fight in their native provinces. The backbone of accountability in Afghanistan — the disciplinary structures that have given them their reputation as fierce fighters — did not translate neatly into the structure we imposed on them. This was a strategic mistake made by us, one that has at times undermined our partnership with them in a counterinsurgency. Despite these challenges, they have fought for two decades beside us against a stubborn Taliban insurgency supported by nations such as Pakistan and Iran.

    In recent days I have been surprised by how many people are surprised by their collapse. If the Pakistanis had withdrawn their enduring support to the Taliban and denied them sanctuary within their borders at any point during this 20-year war, it would have been the Taliban, not our Afghan allies, who collapsed swiftly. But we decided it was time for our war in Afghanistan to end. Fair enough. But now, to accuse our Afghan allies of not fighting hard enough, then to use their alleged incompetence as a smokescreen for our own, is the height of arrogance, and dishonor. To abandon an ally is bad enough. To insult an ally from the East Room of the White House as Biden did in his speech creates a lasting moral injury. . . .

    Afghanistan is not my war. It’s our war. As much as we’ve heard about Afghans giving up the fight, we should not forget who was the first to leave the battlefield: It was us. Tell the Afghan soldiers who fought until they ran out of ammunition and were then slaughtered by the Taliban in Faryab province that they didn’t fight hard enough, or perhaps tell the same to the Afghan commandos who fought all summer in a desperate battles in Lashkar Gah. . . ."
     
  3. Endeavor

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    Let me be honest –

    Do I think Joe Biden is too old to be POTUS – yes.

    Do I think it is a huge risk to elect an 82 years old man who might die on election day? Yes

    Do I think someone little younger then joe Biden could be better POTUS then Joe? yes.

    But my choice is Trump or Joe Biden. I don’t have luxury to worry about Joe Biden might die on inauguration day. Trump claiming he wants to be “ dictator for One day” if he is elected again vs Joe Biden might die day after election. the choice is very simple. Joe Biden.
     
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    Maybe in 2028. They can learn the ropes this go around.
    I also would not rule out Haley for National Security Adviser. That would tee her up nicely in 2028.
    I expect a lot of new faces in House and Senate races as well as prez.
     
  5. Endeavor

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    here is what majority American wants , and it isn't Trump


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    I am liberal, but I am closer to Reagan/ H Bush and “Pre-9/11 W Bush” foreign policy. Bu this is where I disagree with neo-cons/ John Bolton foreign policy- USA can spend another 100 years in Afghanistan, another 100 years in ME , the result will be same – absolutely nothing. The Islam and Western democracy are not compatible. I know you believe we can change Afghanistan, your intention is a noble one but not realistic.
     
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    Germany and Japan became peaceful and democratic. Change is possible.
     
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    But they where far more educated than most of the middle east countries.
     
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    Interesting map. Here's what I found circa 2024
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    I am not interested in MSM selling their “opinion”.

    Here is what voter wants

    Democrats won 8 consecutive years – 20017,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023 and 2024


    Democrats won special election in 2017.
    Democrats won Mid-term election in 2018.
    Democrats won Governor race in Kentucky NOV 2019
    Democrats won Presidential election in 2020.
    Democrats won special election in 2021 and won 2 Senate positions in GA.
    Democrats won anti-abortion law in KS AUG 2022.
    Democrats won Senate and two GOV in mid-term 2022 election. Red wave became oh well.
    Democrats won special election in 2023 – In Wisconsin , Liberal judge won state wide election .
    Democrats won special election ( Issue 1) in Ohio in 2023
    Democrats won Governor race in Kentucky NOV 2023
    Democrats won banning abortion in Ohio in NOV 2023
    Democrats won entire Virginia legislative branch in NOV 2023.
    Democrats won special election in Feb 2024 in NY.
     
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    That was then, causing (a joke, but really):
    upload_2024-3-5_8-23-57.png


    And now !!!!
    upload_2024-3-5_8-22-39.png
     
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    Education is just one aspect. Germans or Japanese don’t believe “ killing infidel will get you 70 virgin”, they don’t believe 6th century Caliphate, Germans don’t believe ‘women are property of man”.
     
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    The discussion was specifically about Afghanistan, where education and secularization were proceeding rapidly without the Taliban.
     
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    Wrong.

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    This is what America wants, and it IS Trump.
     
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    Haley would do better.
     
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    Oh , now interactive map is election result?

    No wonder GOP don’t accept election result. They think election result can be changed with click of a mouse.
     
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    IF Nikki Haley was the nominee, it would look closer to this. Now, she might be able to get over 200 yet, but nowhere near 270.
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    I'm showing you roughly what I'd expect to happen in a Trump vs Biden matchup later this year.
     
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    I am sorry to tell you , your “ expect/ feeling” doesn’t translate to 270 EC vote. only thing translate to 270 EC is actual vote.

    And this is how American people voting since 2017

    GOP lost 8 consecutive years – 20017,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023 and 2024

    GOP lost special election in 2017.
    GOP lost Mid-term election in 2018.
    GOP Lost Governor race in Kentucky NOV 2019
    GOP Lost Presidential election in 2020.
    GOP lost special election in 2021 and lost 2 Senate positions in GA.
    GOP Lost anti-abortion law in KS AUG 2022.
    GOP lost Senate and two GOV in mid-term 2022 election. Red wave became oh well.
    GOP lost special election in 2023 – In Wisconsin , Liberal judge won state wide election .
    GOP Lost special election ( Issue 1) in Ohio in 2023
    GOP Lost Governor race in Kentucky NOV 2023
    GOP lost banning abortion in Ohio in NOV 2023
    GOP lost entire Virginia legislative branch in NOV 2023.
    GOP lost special election in Feb 2024 in NY.
     
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    Simply put, she is a terrible person.


    If somehow, Haley were to get the Republican nod, I'll vote Biden. I don't want to be accountable for the death, tyranny, destruction and poverty she will bring to our nation. Let the DNC take the credit for that.
     
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    She won't need your vote, and I'd be glad to have you on the other side.
     

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