Nikki Haley? any chance??

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  1. Endeavor

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    As a Democrat, we love what is going on in GOP side. If Trump is the nominee, lot a republican will not vote for him. If Haley is nominee , lot a republican will not vote for her.

    If you want to vote for Biden, please vote. If not, that is ok too. 5% GOP stay home or vote for 3rd party will ensure Joe Biden is the POTUS in 2025.
     
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    I doubt your arithmetic, but you do you.
     
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    Biden won following states in 2020 by this margin.

    Wi 0.63%

    PA 1.16%

    MI 2.78%

    AZ 0.31%

    GA 0.24%
     
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    Biden is less popular now than he was in 2020, and I think third party candidates are more of a threat to him than they are to Trump.
     
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    I'll admit that the Washington DC election win for Nikki Haley surprised me, and perhaps I feel like Trump has less of a chance at winning than I thought.

    I saw a YouTube video the other day, stupid comedy, but it contains a short appearance of satire regarding Nikki Haley being a republican in name only.
     
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    It depend on who is the 3rd party candidate.

    joe Manchin, joe Lieberman, Nikki Haley or any if the conservative as 3rd party will not hurt Biden. RFK ? yes, he can take 5% vote away from Biden.

    but here is the catch

    Biden won WI by 0.63% in 2020. Since then Wisconsin lost 0.5% White voters and gained 0.3% Hispanic Voter, 0.1% Asian voter.

    Biden won PA by 1.16 % in 2020. Since then PA lost 1.2% White voters and gained 0.5% Hispanic Voter, 0.2% Asian voter.

    Biden won AZ by 0.31% in 2020. Since then AZ lost 0.8% White voters and gained 0.5% Hispanic Voter, 0.1% Asian voter.

    Biden won GA by 0.24% in 2020. Since then AZ lost 1% White voters and gained 0.4% Hispanic Voter, 0.3% African -American voter.

    Now if I sort by age , you will find similar trends. 65+ years older population decreased in these critical states. If I do by migration then you will see more people moved in to Madison , WI and moved out of Green Bay , WI.

    Every way you see, Trump's reliable voter "white/ older generation/ rural voters" are decreasing in these critical states. On the other hand more liberal , younger voter are moving in these states.

    At the end of the day Presidential election will be decided by Madison, WI, Philadelphia, PA, Atlanta , GA, Phoenix , AZ. Since 2020 election , every single of these cities added more liberal / younger voters – Gwinnet County ( suburb of Atlanta) added 17K population since 2020 election. In AZ, Maricopa county (suburb of Phoenix) added 111K people in last 2 years.
     
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    I congratulate you on some impressive work.
    I do not think Biden can count on the same percentage of African American, Hispanic or Asian voters that he got last time.
    Manchin has said he's not running.
     
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    It’s not that impressive. The website has all the number

    Wisconsin population by year, county, race, & more | USAFacts

    And about the minority vote moving toward GOP. We already talked about it in the past. We all can have dreams.
     
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    Yep .. telling minorities to go back to the country they came from or African American “police kill you because you didn’t learn how to respect authority” will bring all these minority to vote for conservative.
     
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    She stayed in longer than Beto. She will be back in 2028.
     
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    I would like to congratulate Ms. Haley on her Vermont primary victory.
     
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    She's got the vote of the socialists, this will make her a hit in the general! /sarcasm
     
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    That may happen. And I doubt he'll serve a 2nd term. Cackles will take over. And then the Nation will remember what created Trump in the 1st place.

    DeSantis or Ramaswamy will win in 2028... unless the Left can replace us with enough illegals and/or simply steal future elections. If they allow them at all.

    From "Trumpland", accidentally one of the most electric political speeches I've ever heard:
     
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    At this point Haley's only chance is if Trump gets locked up.

    However, she got 30-40% of votes in many places, and exit polls show that 70% of her voters will NOT vote for Trump. That's a lot of Republicans going against him. That being the case the number those voting against Trump will probably cause him to lose like he did in 2020.
     
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    Democrats voted for Haley. Not a victory for her. Just like the DC swamp where Haley also won.
     
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    Democrats voted for Haley disguised as Republicans. But let's ignore that silly little fact.
     
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    And Haley can waste more of her time and other peoples money if she wants. She will never be accepted as a Republican because Haley is not. She can join the No Labels party.
     
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    LOL. What makes it a "fact"?

    Democrats are voting for Trump disguised as Republicans, because he has the best chance to lose in Nov. But let's ignore that silly little fact.
     
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    Watch the local coverage. NH democrats bragging about voting for Haley. Massachusetts same thing. Democrats changed to Republican or Independent so they can vote for Haley. Research will find the same thing happened in Vermont and DC. Election interference.
     
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    Election interference..... Your claims just keep getting better :D:D:D
     
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    Next time, let me pay you first before you begin your “fortune telling”.
     
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    I have suspected for years that Trump consistently exhibits the symptoms associated with palilalia:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/palilalia

    This was true in 2015 when I first began paying attention to him, and it's just as true today.
     
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