Palestinian statehood bid .

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  1. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well. quite a few people want a non-racist state to replace the Occupation, but only zionist propagandist believe that means an attack on the settlers as such. What's needed is a Right of Return and compensation for the ethnically cleansed by a non-racist, non-religious state for all the people of Palestine/'Israel'.
     
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    Who mentioned the Settlers? Are the Settlers Israel as such? You sure jump to conclusions me-lad. How is Tehran? We are having mighty fine weather.
     
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    There are Islamic extremists and Zionist/Jewish extremists. There are extremists in nearly every field of politics, although I referred to two differing religious groups, as I've said multiple times previously, religion is used by some as a means to achieve political aims, to bolster their support, to reinforce their reasoning, to provide them with another excuse to continue in the direction they are going.

    However there are open minded individuals whom see this, who see how religion can be used for self promotion, self gain, to promote self interests, how it blinds people to see the bigger picture, it's not about religion because the religions at the heart of these conflicts also promote peace and tolerance and the like.

    This is about peoples lives, allowing people freedom to live their lives, if anyone thought strapping on explosives and killing innocent people, firing rockets into population centres, shooting children and imprisoning anyone of Islamic faith and Arab appearance, and shelling schools is what the world needs then they need to think again, or other people need to THINK more then ACT more to stop this cycle of violence.

    I can't ever assume how life is like in Palestine or Israel, I can only imagine it to be hard, frightful, a climate of fear and distrust, a climate of hate and revenge, intolerance and it just continues because each fuels each, it takes one side to stop behaving like the other to change the situation, then it takes the other side to take a lesson from the side that chose the lives of everyone and not just themselves and their immediate circle to change the future for the better, for the majority. However change is never guaranteed to be a good thing, it can go both ways, it's up to the people behind the change to help guide it towards a path that benefits most and considers all.
     
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    Liebe: Israel has spent millions of dollars to recruit settlers and create facts on the ground.... Who is responsible for them if not Israel?
     
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    Its long been part of Israeli Gvt policies to subsidies - finance establishment and expansion of religious extremists settlements - . HaTenu'a Lema'an Eretz Yisrael HaSheleima - still functioning as splinter groups with different names, . Yisrael Beiteinu , etc.
     
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    Yes.. cheap mortgages, Hebrew language schools, universal healthcare, and all manner of subsidies to have babies and/or study Torah.
     
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    The settlers are the children of regugees who couldn't get into the US mostly, as you know, The rulers - your bosses - are, as you know, nazis.
     
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    Many if not most of the settlers are from Jewish neighborhoods in NYC.
     
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    Could you rephrase in English? Maybe you have rulers. I don't. Can't make sense of the rest.

    Margot is claiming that the settlers are new yorkers and you are claiming that they did not get into the US. Any other claims as to how they constitute Israel?
     
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    Well I leave it to you to determine if most are not from the Bronkx.. but the larger question is WHO recruits immigrants?

    Do you remember when they did a quick two week conversion of 90 Peruvian Indians and set them down in the Occupied Territories?

     
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    I certainly can't do it in German. What other languages do you speak -Khazar? I don't know it. Most of the settlers in Palestine after the war were displaced persons desperate for somewhere to live. The nazis in the States, as you know, are allowed out to do a little child-killing and then allowed back to screw the poor there. A people to be proud of!
     
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    No I don't.

    The bigger question is whether the settlers are israel as Iolo i.e whether they constitute the population of israel or a minority, kind of like radical arabs.
     
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    Khazar - I knew it! Showing your true colours supporting the anti-semitic obsession I see. LOL I am sooo surprised.
    I do not know the States very well so you'll have to tell me which nazis you mean. KKK? Bush? The anti-Americans refer to everyone as nazis, so you will have to be more specific.
    Seems that child killing and screwing on your mind have still not been clearly explained. Try again. English will do.
     
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    Well look it up.. Rabbis went to Peru to recruit more cannon fodder for facts on the ground in the Occupied territories.
     
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    I cannot see why I should look up a point you make.

    My issue is that settlers are not Israel but a small minority of people and hence should not be used in the sens eof Israel. You have made another point and then suggested that I look it up.
     
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    Nobody in 'Israel' except the native people goes back beyond six generations - they are all settlers.
     
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    LOL sounding more radical all the time

    yours truly

    khazar, tel aviv
     
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    And how do you differentiate between the squatters in, say, Hebron and those in Jerusalem ? In fact, which areas of illegally occupied Palestine do you claim are legally squatted upon ?
     
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    Liebe . dont you ever get tired of boringly playing te "anti-semitic " card . ?

    btw - what are your "true colours" - ? You once claimed to have South African family - would they be Afrikaners/ Boers descendents of of Nazi sympathizers , current neo-Nazis racists - Die Ossewabrandwag ?


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    It's habitual in many people. Amongst Europeans its very evident in Germans. Also, they are still lost in terms of classical antisemitism.
     
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    Most Gemanys are smart enough to not accuse anyone and everything of being anti-Semite.
     
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