Why are conservatives typically Christian?

LOL At least these Liberals you speak of know what is in the Bible as opposed to these wingnuts who blindly follow their local wingnut Pastor.

The problem with the religious right is that they have no clue what Jesus actually taught or what the Bible says. Now for the hillbilly extremists this is understandable because they can read too well.

As for the rest... they are blind sheep following false prophets who claim to speak for God.

 

hannity and Limbaugh whore for the same group of media moguls and bankers as the headliners on CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, TIME, NEWSWEEK, and every major newspaper.

Why do you fall for the charade ?
There is no left and right. There are the corporatists in washington and wall street, .... and the rest of us who they have effectively divided and conquered.

But go ahead, blame Jesus, the rich, the homophobes, the right or whatever scapegoat you can think of for all of our problems.
You are just as ridiculous as those blaming the poor, immigrants, iran, terror, or whatever ridiculous target those on the "right" are told to blame.

 

The main difference between a conservative Christian voter and a non-conservative (Christian or non-Christian) is that Conservative Christians believe "coveting" is against God. This means we don't get jealous when someone else has more then we do. Conservative Christians know that Jesus would not want some government entity to forciably take money for supposedly good deeds (but often not). Jesus believes that giving should come from the heart.

There are poor and wealthy conservative Christians...but the values held are not different.

God doesn't view wealth as bad...as he blessed many of his people in the Bible with wealth. But he looks at the attitude and whether its an attitude that puts Him first.

 

How do you know what God does, or does not think about wealth.

What probably would be offensive to Gods are petty humans that go around putting words in his mouth.

If there is anything good that can be said for atheists is that they do not go around claiming to speak for God.

 

Because there is no biblical doctrine prohibiting alchohol, most christians didnt have a problem with drinking.

 

Atheists aren't capable of speaking for God. And if a Christian can't....then he or she better get a little closer.

 

There are many good Christians out there who do not force their beliefs on others. Then there is the Religious Right who are an embarassment to Christianity and humanity in general.

 

True, handouts should be available to those in need. But I don't feel as a Christian that the Democratic party does enough to lift people out of poverty. Look at the trillions we have spent since Johnson started his Great Society and war on poverty. We have more poor now than ever before. I don't think we have done nearly enough to help people lift themselves out of poverty. I don't think cities have done nearly enough to help. Seems like many cities have closed down vocational schools. There are some jobs that can't find enough qualified workers. We should be working with many of these companies for training. That where a bunch of our money for the poor should go. Pay these companies to train those on welfare.

We need to get rid of some of these regulations that stunt companies from expanding and starting new businesses. There is nothing out there that we can do more to lift people out of poverty than to find them jobs. That should be our top priority. I think the Democratic Party wants to keep them dependent on them which is why they haven't done enough about jobs. Hell Pelosi even told a bunch of musicians to quit their job so they could concentrate on their music, the Party has them covered. (Meaning health and welfare assistance.) It sure isn't that I like seeing these millionaires making so much money. But I know we need them if we are going to lift the rest of the population up.

 

Liberals try to do so by funding education, but the simple fact is, that the GOP (who's been in more power the last 16 years in Congress) have ripped apart true forms of effective education for the poor and lower classes. The reason is the purpose of education. For the right, it's about pushing forward the top students in order to compete with the rest of the world. For the left, it's about using education to try and build up the lower classes and reduce poverty and government dependence. Unfortunately, the party that's been in power more lately has created funding for the former and stripped away the potential success of the latter. Guess where that leaves the poor and uneducated? On the doles of the government.

Whichever party actually succeeds in creating effective education for the poor (not necessarily the guarantees of college, but at least enough to get GED level jobs and manufacturing level skills) will be the one to go the furthest in reducing poverty and welfare. I've failed to see a Republican proposal that tackles that, and all I ever seem to hear is about how vouchers will somehow make schools better, when in reality it only makes schools better for the higher tiered students, in alignment with right wing goals.

 

That is another thing I have against the Democratic Party. They seem to be more interested in making the teacher's union happy than making sure our kids are learning in school and many kids aren't. I can tell you why, but I couldn't explain the problems half as well as this video. Please take the time and watch it. Then we can discuss it.

Stupid in America

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9069323583494421392

 

In that case I agree with you 100%

 

Because they want to preserve Western Civilization as opposed to wanting to burn it to the ground as the Left does.

Like it or not, Christian and Jewish moraility and ethics is part of the West's DNA. The Christians forced the end of slavery in the West. It still exists in the East.

Hell, the progressive humanist belief system is based on Western human rights values mixed with sexual license.

Until Christianity/Judaism, human rights largely were the rights of only the franchised citizens of city states.
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To be a Christian, you have to believe in wildly implausible things on complete faith and without any backing of scientific evidence or logical reasoning. Conservatism is not that far off that trail, actually, because it too has you believing wildly implausible things on complete faith and without any backing of economic evidence or logical reasoning.

It just goes hand in hand, if you're gullible enough to believe that Mary spontaneously got pregnant without a man, then you must be gullible enough to believe that the money really will trickle down if you just wait......still waiting. (Also waiting for that socialist hippie to return from the right hand of God)

 

Here's the thing (and I'll preface by stating that I didn't watch the video), I really wish that the standard "attack" from non-liberals regarding education stances OF liberals was something other than the union relationship. Yes, liberals tend to support teachers pay and support a teachers right to negotiate contracts for better pay and benefits. But the fact is, that is a VERY small part of the big picture stance on education by liberals and progressives. We want to see more federal funding for education programs (how far could 1% of the defense budget go towards education?), more access to public resources for EVERY public school, more teachers per student in classrooms, more parent accountability in kids education (to me this is the BIGGEST failure in education right now, parents thinking that a school is some repository where kids get shaped like clay and sent home different than when they left. The fact is that a childs propensity for learning and preparedness for success comes from the home and the home alone), a broader scope of curriculum that isn't "economic and militaristic strength-centric" (you know, only worrying about math, reading and science while ignoring personal finance, basic living course work, culture, health education, sex education, intro to specific trades, history, art, etc) and many other things unrelated to union rights.

The fact is, the right has no ideas beyond vouchers and cutting funding for teacher salaries so they defer all conversations to the lowest common denominator. Those deflections will forever prevent a consensus on our school programs. NCLB needs to go yesterday (it should never have been passed). National standards for parental involvement and preparation outside the classrooms needs to be established. I'm actually for merit pay to an extent (through bonus programs after the fact, not skewed salary schedules). There are enormous problems with schools, and none of them can be solved by blowing up current buildings and establishments and simply shuffling kids around like gerrymandering until enough can skew the tests in a positive direction. Vouchers are an artificial solution akin to creating financial bubbles in order to "prove" economic prosperity. Shuffle enough smart kids into the same school and suddenly less schools appear to be failing, thereby, tada, gains in education must be happening? Right? Wrong.

The greatest way to fix education right now is to deny kids access to public education until they've shown adequete preparedness from their parents to succeed in a school environment. If they are 6 and haven't been taught to read basic letters and numbers at home, no 1st grade yet. If they can't socialize or understand basic concepts like sit down and shut up in a classroom setting, no Kindergarten. If their parents expect to be able to drop kids off completely unprepared, unequipped with basic learning skills due to complete lack of preparation by parents, there is absolutely NOTHING a teacher, even the very best teachers in the world, can do with those kids. It's time to level the blame where it belongs, with stupid parents with unrealistic, irresponsible expectations of what a school is. It's not a factory for changing your kids, its an environment for enabling your kids to learn to the potential YOU'VE created in them through your upbringing and nurturing. Change the expectations and behaviors at home, and schools will suddenly improve in ways you cannot imagine.

 

I would laugh about this if it weren't so sad. If this is really what you think then there's no hope for you. But I'll tell you the truth - we don't want to burn anything to the ground.

 

How many people do you know who's beliefs are all consistent?
People don't choose beliefs for consistency or rationality.
They believe what they find aesthetically appealing or useful. Then they rationalize what they want to believe.

 

Sometimes we are actually able to "believe" X because there exists a convincing array of evidence indicating that X is TRUE and/or best represents reality.

 

I don't know about that. Most Christians I know are all too eager to speak for God. They don't hesitate to pipe up and tell you all about every detail of everything God knows on any issue, tenable or not, even on issues where the Bible is ambiguous or silent.

 

Whew! That's a relief. lol

 

Sure, sometimes, if you try real hard. And you have to be very introspective too be able to do that.

 

I didn't read all 15 pages. But maybe the question you should be asking is why most Christians are Conservatives?

 

Most atheists I know are pretty certain about what God would be like if He existed.

 

A kind, benevolent, understanding God would not expect us to believe a book of mythology or some ancient story about Jesus that may or may not be true in order to get into heaven. He wouldn't require faith he would provide proof.

 

You just have to come to the point where you value what is so (vs what isn't so) more than you value getting a pat on the head - regardless of whether it's someone else or you giving the pat.

 

Because Jesus preached that all his followers shall be dog eat dog darwinian capitalist, as it is written on page 1,234 in the King James...........

Your health, your problem, I got mine, "Am I my (*)(*)(*)(*) brothers keeper"????? Hell NO!!!!