Julian Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador...-tk3

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  1. daddyofall

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    US prisons are for criminals, gulags for any sort of people, from jews to regime opposers.
     
  2. tok3z

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    USA holds 25% of all the prisoners in the world, and held over 50,000 political prisoners without trial for periods as long as a decade... More than 90% of those political prisoners turned out to be innocent completely... All were tortured including at least a minimum of waterboarding...
    USA also holds the largest number of prisoners outside its own borders, largest number of foreign prisoners and largest number of foreign minors in prison...

    If US prisons are for criminals then why is the American prison system and court system so racially biased..? Why are you still trying to sell Cold War lies from the biggest liar on the planet, the pentagon..?
     
  3. tok3z

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    Regime opposers at that time = nazi collaborators...
    Who do you think was opposing the regime..?
    Get this clear, there is no way that you can possibly compare the crimes of Stalin with the crimes of Hitler without denying most of the crimes of hitler...
    The CIA, founded by high ranking nazi war criminals, was the one who dared to compare Stalin to hitler... All while the CIA was hiding nazi war criminals in South America and installing nazi-modelled regimes throughout that continent under Operation Condor... Killed more people doing so than Stalin could ever be accused of...
    Up until the kruschev secret speech, Joe Stalin was a hero all around the world for being the one who was first to fight hitler and the one who defeated him...
    If it took a secret speech to even reveal the bad side of Stalin to the Russian ppl then he couldn't have been all that repressive, given the circumstances...
     
  4. tok3z

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    Comparing the gulags to the nazi death camps is the very worst kind of holocaust minimalism... They were nothing like the same...
    Btw Jews in the gulags were guards detaining the POWs captured in the death camps and the waffen ss... Stalin built a Yiddish speaking Jewish homeland in the east of the country, safe from the holocaust...
    I don't think you even know what Gulags were...
     
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    Wow. Okay first of all the amount of people that Stalin killed dwarfs the amount that the Nazis killed. That homeland that you are talking about, Jewish Autonomous Oblast, was not some free place for them. They were forced to live under Stalin's warped socialist vision. In the mid 1930s, you do know that freedom was restricted even more so during Stalin's purges? After that they shut down Yiddish schools and kill tons of Jewish leaders.

    No you don't know a thing about the Gulags. Then again you think that North Korea has more freedom than America.....so everything you say should be considered to be a joke.
     
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  6. daddyofall

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    He's not only delusional but a hypocrite. Either that or perfected the art of trolling.
     
  7. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Hope the bastards dont find him and kill him off as well.I hate it that our government always gets away with murdering whistleblowers all the time.Im sick of it.
     
  8. daddyofall

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    Two questions and i want you to be honest about it,was USSR under Stalin rulling a dictaroship? Was he a fair ruler to the "soviet people"? In your opinion ofcourse.

    While we're at it, was Trotsky a nazi in disguise supported by the US?
     
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    I wouldnt say so.He is wrong in his post about the nazis forming the CIA but he might have just gotten that confused with the fact that our evil CIA,after the war ended,brought over nazi war criminals to do experiments on americans.The CIA is an evil organization that needs to be abolished.anybody who denys that is an idiot and doesnt know anything about them.He might have got that part wrong but he hit the nail right on the head in this post below.

    USA holds 25% of all the prisoners in the world, and held over 50,000 political prisoners without trial for periods as long as a decade... More than 90% of those political prisoners turned out to be innocent completely... All were tortured including at least a minimum of waterboarding...
    USA also holds the largest number of prisoners outside its own borders, largest number of foreign prisoners and largest number of foreign minors in prison...

    If US prisons are for criminals then why is the American prison system and court system so racially biased..? Why are you still trying to sell Cold War lies from the biggest liar on the planet, the pentagon..?

    That first paragraph is so true and anybody who knows anything at all about the pentagon knows they really are the biggest liars on the planet along with the CIA.
     
  11. tok3z

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    According to Joseph Stalin's national policy, each of the national groups that formed the Soviet Union would receive a territory in which to pursue cultural autonomy in a socialist framework. In that sense, it also responded to two supposed threats to the Soviet state:

    Judaism, which ran counter to official state policy of atheism
    Zionism — the advocacy of a Jewish national state in Palestine — which countered Soviet views of nationalism.
    The Soviets envisaged setting up a new "Soviet Zion", where a proletarian Jewish culture could be developed. Yiddish, rather than Hebrew, would be the national language, and a new socialist literature and arts would replace religion as the primary expression of culture.
    Stalin's theory on the National Question regarded a group as a nation only if it had a territory, and since there was no Jewish territory, per se, the Jews were not a nation and did not have national rights. Jewish Communists argued that the way to solve this ideological dilemma was by creating a Jewish territory, hence the ideological motivation for the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. Politically, it was also considered desirable to create a Soviet Jewish homeland as an ideological alternative to Zionism and the theory put forward by Socialist Zionists such as Ber Borochov that the Jewish Question could be resolved by creating a Jewish territory in Palestine. Thus Birobidzhan was important for propaganda purposes as an argument against Zionism which was a rival ideology to Marxism among left-wing Jews.
    -Wikipedia...

    Someone's been reading too much Cold War drivel if they think the JAO was a camp jews were transported to...
     
  12. tok3z

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    I'm not wrong about nazis forming the CIA... Two high ranking Gestapo torturers collided with Hoover to form the CIA, on the model of nazi intelligence service, and handed over all nazi files on communists... It was they who organised to rehouse nazi war criminals in South America, and supported the Operation Condor regimes... Also established the School of the Americas in Georgia where they taught nazi torture techniques to military from Washington approved dictatorships...
     
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    ^ colluded with Hoover...


    They also organised backing for former nazis in Soviet occupied eastern Europe under the NATO doctrine...

    Also note that nazis were involved in forming Australian Intelligence service ASIO in same time period, and that there were also war criminals in Australia's refugee migrant intake from eastern Europe following ww2...
     
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    Links please or it never happened.
     
  15. Serfin' USA

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    I'm not sure if I should be entertained by these ramblings or if someone should notify his next of kin.
     
  16. tok3z

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    Are you joking lizarddust..? I thought you were Australian, and so would be aware of that...
    For a list of Australianised nazi war criminals see the Wiesenthal Foundation... They extradited or tried to extradite a number of them...
     
  17. tok3z

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    Here's a link for you ld... http://home.alphalink.com.au/~loge27/c_war_aus/c_war_aus_dom/cwar_aus_d_nazis.htm
    [When Kalejs arrived in Australia, Australian authorities accepted the reports of International Refugee Organisation without further investigation.

    Contrast this laxity with the treatment of Italians. External Affairs Minister Richard Casey noted in his diary for 2 November 1951 that, of the 1918 potential emigrants who passed the medical, only 62 remained “after ‘political’ examination” to remove anyone who had ever voted Communist. Not content with reports from the Italian Ministry of the Interior, the Australian government spent ‘a great deal of time in delving into the local records’.]
     
  18. tok3z

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    Typical American delusion... There are two American war criminals of note who very few would deny are among the biggest killers in history... Henry K.....ger and Robert MacN_____-Strange...
    Even American liberal icons like JFK are mass murderers who authorised uncontrolled saturation bombing of neutral nations and the use of chemical weapons against civilian populations...
    Deny it all you want, you just make yourself look more ignorant...
     
  19. tok3z

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    Here's the PDF of first documented American Intelligence collusion with nazi war criminals before the CIA was even formed... http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/doc06.pdf

    And here's at least two credible studies on the released CIA files including links...
    http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/gehlen.htm

    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/

    Yes the CIA worked extensively with the nazis...
    Why is it every time an American tries to dispute this with me I turn up new evidence even I didn't know about..?
     
  20. Serfin' USA

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    Well, tok3z, if we're so evil, it must feel good to live in a country that's closely allied with us.

    You can be sure that we'll be working closely together on a lot of interventions, and all the complaining in the world won't change that.
     
  21. tok3z

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    Did you bother checking the links..? I at least can feel my govt is betraying me by the American alliance...
    Protection of Japanese war criminals on same level as that protection of Nazi war criminals is only part of the reason...
     
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    Your economy is what will stop you...
     
  23. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Is there any particular country that comes close to what you would describe as ideal in its foreign policy?
     
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    Is there any other country with a foreign policy like yours..?
    Consider even the ANZUS alliance... In its 60 years how many American soldiers have died in Australian wars..?
    Did the ANZUS alliance give any rights to Australians who were held and tortured in unlawful American custody..?
     
  25. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Being the most important and powerful country on the planet we have a unique foreign policy.

    In the past 60 years how many wars has Australia had?

    How many Australians were held and tortured in unlawful American custody?
     

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