California here I come. (Can't be fast enough)

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    California bill could create sanctuary state for non-felon illegal immigrants

    California lawmakers are considering a new bill that could create a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants seeking protection from Arizona’s strict immigration law.

    The Transparency and Responsibility Using State Tools, or TRUST Act, which is currently making its way through the California legislature, would prohibit local law enforcement from turning over illegal immigrants for deportation except for those with serious felony convictions.

    Debate over the bill comes after the nation's highest court last month upheld the most controversial provision of the Arizona immigration law -- requiring local police to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally. Federal immigration officials have said they will be selective in responding to those calls and have already moved to shield some categories of illegal immigrants nationwide from deportation, but the provision is still on the books in Arizona.

    Critics of the California measure call it a "huge mistake," even dangerous. But proponents say local law enforcement should not be “entangled” in enforcing federal immigration law.

    “The Trust Act is a good idea for California because we want to position ourselves as the anti-Arizona,” said Angela Chan, a senior staff attorney with the Asian Law Caucus, a San Francisco-based civil rights organization in support of the bill.

    Chan also said the Trust Act, sponsored by Democratic Assemblyman Tom Ammiano of San Francisco, seeks to remedy what she described as problems with the Obama administration’s Secure Communities program, which lets local jails conduct immigration checks on everyone who is arrested. The federal program has led to the deportation of thousands of illegal immigrants – many of whom have no criminal records – and has been fiercely criticized by civil rights activists.

    “Seven of the 10 people deported under this program have no criminal convictions,” Chan told FoxNews.com.

    An ICE spokeswoman, however, disputed that statistic, saying the actual numbers are reversed -- that nearly 75 percent of people deported through Secure Communities have one or more criminal convictions.

    Chan said the program’s implementation has “resulted in an undercutting of community policing,” meaning immigrant residents may be afraid to call local law enforcement if they are witnesses or victims of a crime out of fear of deportation.

    “The trust act will rebuild the community’s confidence in law enforcement,” added Jon Rodney of the California Immigrant Policy Center.

    But critics of the Trust Act argue it will force local police to release individuals without conducting a thorough enough background check on them, running “the risk of letting some very dangerous people" slip through the cracks.

    “This is a huge mistake,” said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies at the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies.

    “It benefits mainly the illegal aliens who are here committing crimes and makes it much harder for federal and local law enforcement agencies to protect people who have to live with the illegal aliens who are creating the crime,” Vaughan told FoxNews.com. “The local law enforcement agency may not know what convictions or other offenses are on that person’s record. … They may not know who that person really is unless they hold that person long enough for DHS to check their record.”

    Los Angeles County Sheriff Leroy D. "Lee" Baca is also opposed to the bill, saying through a spokesman that he does not believe it will pass.

    "He believes that (Secure Communities) must do better and will do better, but this is not the right way to do that," Los Angeles County sheriff's spokesman Steve Whittmore told FoxNews.com.

    The Trust Act, which was already passed by the California state Assembly, awaits a vote by the state Senate.

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  2. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The 10.5 BILLION illegals cost California now isn't enough? LOL...some people just dont get it.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's how to throw a real monkey wrench into the works. Ask them how they will know who has felonies unless they check status. And if they are checking status, isn't that exactly what Arizona wanted to do in the first place?
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The state is broke now trying to pay for illegals. Scores of emergency rooms have gone bankrupt. Illegals commit the most murders in the state and they want to make a sanctuary of the whole state? I guess Mexico will get California back anyway. Good reddens.
     
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    Democrats

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    Illegal Immigration

    .....Dedicated to any Democrat voter that was still deluded enough to believe anything different.........
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    I believe that I mentioned before that Arizona should build a rail head at the border and provide free rail service to any sanctuary city of the invader's choice. Now, they will have an entire state to send them to.
     
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    The progressive, centrally planned collective crowd uses federal authority to weaken, coerce and compel states to adhere to their dictates....retirement, national education, abortion, medicare/aid, Affirmative Action, labor laws, Obamacare, GLBT issues....

    yet, when the "Supreme Law of the Land" presents obstacles to progressive agenda....be it federal immigration law or federal marijuana prohibitions...they simply ignore it...

    with hardly a peep from an administration that as actively sued a number of states
    for endeavoring to uphold federal immigration law.

    Makes my head spin
     
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    Just wait till Obama Care kicks in in full.
     
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    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Where, exactly, does the constitution say a state cannot have its own immigration laws?
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    that is plain crazy..we can't afford it..we're broke..
     
  11. Never Left

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    California is progressive neo-communist leftist loser white guilt paradise. Stupid is as stupid does, especially in California.
     
  12. webrockk

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    Ask Obama and Holder....they've sued Arizona, Alabama, South Carolina, and Utah for having their "own immigration laws". (but not California..for some reason *wink wink*)

    Article VI Clause 2 states:

    But, to answer your question, right beside where the Constitution says states cannot have their own drug laws ;)
     
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    Additionally...

    Basically, in regards to illegal immigration, Obama and Holder have been using federal "civil rights" laws to sue states in "violation"...
    which suggests they hold very little regard for the private property rights of American citizens who fund state infrastructure.
     
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    I think that shows exactly where this Administrations loyalties lie, great point.
     
  15. webrockk

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    Some folks set 'em up like a bowling pins.
     
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    Wow, California is doing everything humanly possible to drive away productive Americans and attract the dregs of society from all over the planet.

    And liberals will keep scratching their heads wondering what the problem is there.

    LOL
     
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    And you want to know the best part? When these hyperlib, left-coast idiots go broke, guess who's going to get to bail them out? :omg:
     
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    All illegals in the US should head to California.


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  19. webrockk

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    Hastening their irreversible insolvency.....and the massive and presedent setting "bailout" from Big Papa Fed.

    Writing on the wall
     
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    Let California kill itself. Then we can pass martial law and clean EVERYONE out and start fresh in that snake pit. It'll give our military coming home something to do. Glad I live on the opposite side of the country far away from what its going to become over there. Liberals truly have a death wish.
     
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    Thank gawd!

    Finally a reason for states to build Obama's High Speed Rail!


    ...I knew sooner or later wasting taxpayer money would equate to something beneficial!
     
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    President Romney would then be able to make them put their house in order as states are doing to bankrupt cities.


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    Or Germany to Greece. Such would basically seriously infringe on California's sovereignty by making them fully beholding to the economic dictates of central authority....
    and set presedent for the further spread of centrally managed, "fair and just" economic collectivism....
    which must expand, (or be fenced) lest the productive class simply cross state lines for greener pastures.

    Bloodless Revolution 101
     
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    California has had the most incompetent state legislature for as long as I can remember. Apparently nothing has changed.
     
  25. Bow To The Robots

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    Republicans heart it too. Remember who signed the first amnesty? Remember who had the worst immigration enforcement record in modern times? Remember who threw two Border Patrol agents under the bus to serve as a warning to others?

    Nobody has a monopoly on pandering to the illegals and their cronies. And we, the taxpaying citizens, are the ones left holding the bag.
     

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