Invasive Ultrasounds For Women - How About Rectal Exams For Men?

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  1. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

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    WOW! What a scenario? You should write this into a movie, because it really has a ridiculously improbable plot. Firstly, I do not have intentions of donating to a sperm bank. If I did, the mother wouldn't have my info due to confidentiality. Also, what kind of woman gets sperm from a sperm bank to have a child and then tries to dump it off? I see what you are TRYING to say, but this is an absolutely absurd scenario. I cannot even take it seriously.
     
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    AshenLady New Member Past Donor

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    Makes sense to me...:cool:
     
  3. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    I thought so. The hypocrisy of that is totally lost on you.

    Have you ever had a civics class, read the constitution? What does "We the people" mean to you? How about "A government by the people, for the people" does it mean anything to you?

    Right feel is jus not do anything about it. i got that part clearly.
     
  4. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    And if that is only lifetime disability such as with cardiomyopathy related to pregnancy

    Or, and this is a REAL kicker - she has severe peri-natal depression - are you still going to "allow" an abortion?

    Would you like someone else making your health care decisions for you?
     
  5. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    No, this is the scenario that is played out by women all over the world - some irresponsible male knocks her up and buggers off leaving her to deal with it. I just wrote the male version

    And the woman might have been lying about the sperm bank - does not matter - image you now have a new born to look after and the prospects of no money, no home and no job

    What are you going to do?
     
  6. danboy9787

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    Yes! She should have been more careful if it was an inconvenient time. That baby should die because its annoying to her?

    and I mean a doctor's professional suggestion, not just a ' its ok to abort' there is a difference
     
  7. danboy9787

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    Put it up for adoption? This is an ignorant argument. At least in foster care the baby has a chance to live. If you abort it, the baby has no chance and no hope. How is that ok?!?!
     
  8. danboy9787

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    Yes, I would be more than ok with someone stopping me from committing murder, thanks for asking
     
  9. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Children also get abused in foster care, as many people become carers because of the money.
     
  10. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    What happens when the woman kills herself due to her depression. Dead woman equals dead baby.
     
  11. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

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    The government and the people are two separate entities? The government isnt even an entity really. or it shouldnt be. youre just too ignorant to know what the forefathers had planned for us. it was liberty, not democracy.
     
  12. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    Really? When did that separation take place and by what act?

    NOw that IS really, really funny and of course ironic coming from you.
     
  13. danboy9787

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    The government isn't an entity. It is an idea of the people. That is the point. When you let the government be a entity THEN it has far too much power. What I am saying is there should be no difference between the people and the government, but what you see NOW with obama's huge government is not so. You see a separation- a big brother. Government should be a collection of ideas. Not an 'entity' per se.
     
  14. prometeus

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    Clearly you are confused. Ever hear an idea that implements laws and wages war?
    I suggest you go and read some more books then attempt debating.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What specifically do you mean by "Obama's huge government"?
     
  16. danboy9787

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    uh, pretty much everything he and his administration and the senate and anything controlled by people who like big government. Big government is bad. Just go ahead and ask the ancient Romans what they thought of big government. They were doing almost the same exact things that we are doing now. I won't pretend to just blame obama. I'm not like those idiots that think somehow Bush was able to cause all of this destruction on his own. Thats just ridiculous.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you can't be more specific than that, then you don't even know what you are talking about. You're just repeating Tea Party lies.
     
  18. danboy9787

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    So... you believe that Obama wants smaller government? Thats ignorant.
     
  19. debateme

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    The crazy truth in all this is a rectal exam really can save a man's life, not to mention the powers of his do-johnny.
     
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    ok, but only if we cuddle afterwards. :-D
     
  21. mikezila

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    you are absolutely correct! why bother getting the sex pills if it's his prostrate that's the problem?


    and it would cut down recreationional use of the little blue pill too! the kids are causing shortages for the old folks that need it! :angered:
     
  22. debateme

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    While this type of bill (viagra hoops to jump through) is offered up to make people think about their views, I think it just wastes time.
    In fact the American medical association and gynecological organizations should be consulted before any azz hat womens health legislation is offered also.
    I wouldn't trust congress near a vagina or a prostate otherwise. There is no need for the trans vaginal whatever it is. Abortion should be settled on a point of law. And that point should take as many medical sources into consideration as possible.
    The question in the 70s was : Do we allow doctors or lawmakers to make the decision to intentionally miscarry a fetus? Because doctors were being prevented from making an informed decision on medical grounds. Then some hot shot lawyers threw the privacy issue into the mix and RvW became the law of the land. We have to go back to the court on the person issue or obey the law and quit trying to water it down because we don't like it.
     
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    Yeah, I'm all in favor of rectal exams — for men that wish to partake in the killing of a fetus that is! A father that wants to abort his fetus should be required to undergo a rectal exam first. Also, a male abortion doctor should be required to get a rectal exam before every abortion he performs.
    See? I am all in favor of fairness.

    Why are women even complaining? Don't they have to get an invassive vacuum cleaner shoved up their ***** anyway when they get an abortion? So what's the big deal?
     
  24. Bowerbird

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    Are these the SAME women who are constantly being accused of taking the "easier option of abortion"??
     
  25. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    The abortion is the procedure those women have chosen for themselves, while the vaginal examination is a completely unnecessary one. Show me a medical need for it that pertains to the abortion and then it might actually be more than just being a hissy fit by lifers mad that women have abortions at all.
     

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