Invasive Ultrasounds For Women - How About Rectal Exams For Men?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Makedde, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Messages:
    66,166
    Likes Received:
    349
    Trophy Points:
    0
    A smart Virginia lawmaker has decided that if women are forced to undergo an invasive ultrasound before getting an abortion, men should be forced to endure a rectal exam before getting their hands on their Viagra pills:

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/30/virginia-lawmaker-tries-to-attach-rectal-exam-provision-to-anti-abortion-bill/

    What is even more amazing is that her proposal was narrowly rejected by 21-19.
    It should have passed, but Republican men would, of course, wish to have free choice when it comes to invasive medical procedures.
     
    OKgrannie and (deleted member) like this.
  2. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2011
    Messages:
    6,938
    Likes Received:
    98
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ahahahaha....okay...reading that gave me a good long chuckle.

    Really, I think its only fair that it should have passed.
     
  3. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Messages:
    66,166
    Likes Received:
    349
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I can't believe it almost did!
     
  4. Unifier

    Unifier New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    14,479
    Likes Received:
    531
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It's good to know that we have people this petty running our country. This is like something a 10 year old would come up with to "get back at the boys." Extremely childish and blatantly misandrist.

    When Viagra is killing children, then you can try to make a case for something like this. Until then, drop the spiteful crap and act like an adult.
     
    RightToLife likes this.
  5. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I agree. And since when is a regular ultrasound "invasive"? They have handheld Ultrasound devices these days! Its not wrong for a doctor to want to at least give informed consent before someone kills 'something' (whether you wanna call it a baby or a fetus, you are still killing it. i mean come on thats not even an arguable point.) that is inside of them!
     
  6. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    11,372
    Likes Received:
    467
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    There is no such animal.
     
  7. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Messages:
    8,661
    Likes Received:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Get over it, the laws requiring ultrasounds for women are nothing but intentionally punitive and degrading, because it has been shown they do NOT cause women to change their minds. Legislators have been waging spiteful attacks on women with endless punitive laws. Your outrage is misplaced; you SHOULD be outraged that women will be subjected by law to this:

    [​IMG]
     
  8. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0
    orrrr we could get rid of the 'right' of women to commit murder, then they wouldnt have to have an invasive procedure
     
  9. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Messages:
    8,661
    Likes Received:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    48
    There is no right to murder. You just think women should be tortured because they had sex.
     
  10. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No, I believe women should have to take responsibility for the sex that they had. So no, they should not murder a fetus, or a baby, or whatever you want to call it to ease your conscience.
     
  11. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Messages:
    8,661
    Likes Received:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    48
    That's what I said. Women had sex, so they should have to pay with pregnancy and childbirth, or government forced rape by instrumentation.

    There is no murder, or whatever you call it to attempt to control women.
     
  12. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So what would you call the extinguishing of the life inside of a pregnant woman? you think there is no death?
     
  13. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Messages:
    8,661
    Likes Received:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Over half of all fertilized eggs never implant and are flushed away every month. Were those people that died???
     
  14. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You people will just use anything as an argument. These things happen. FORCING them to happen is something else entirely. Don't be ridiculous please, besides a BARELY fertilized egg is not what most of these women are aborting.
     
  15. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Messages:
    8,661
    Likes Received:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    48
    A barely fertilized egg is what pro-lifers INSIST is a person with rights. I agree, it's a ridiculous argument by those who want to punish or control women.

    And actually, what you are implying is that a fertilized egg is only a person if a woman wants an abortion. At what point between the BARELY fertilized egg and the embryo that is aborted does it become murder?
     
  16. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2011
    Messages:
    6,938
    Likes Received:
    98
    Trophy Points:
    48
    No viagra is just killing off old men who are unfit to be having sex.
     
  17. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,653
    Likes Received:
    74,091
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    When it is done per vagina

    We are talking very early ultrasound and THAT is not done by rubbing it over the tummy!
     
  18. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,653
    Likes Received:
    74,091
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I call it natural causes

    I cannot see the difference between miscarriage and abortion
     
  19. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It is ALWAYS murder. what i was "implying" is that you cannot control when something like that happens naturally. Murder is an intentional aid in the death of something or someone. if a doctor goes in and ends the life of something that would continue living normally, then that is murder. how can you argue this? abortion is wrong. I know girls who have gotten several abortions cause they can't keep their (*)(*)(*)(*) pants on and don't want to take responsibility for their actions. what makes that ok?
     
  20. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That's ignorant? A miscarriage is usually not intentional, and sometimes completely uncontrollable. Abortion is INTENTIONAL and CONTROLLED. There is a HUGE difference.
     
  21. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    27,801
    Likes Received:
    302
    Trophy Points:
    83
    She thinks a naturally occuring heart attack should be prosecuted as a murder. :roll:
     
  22. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Seriously. Does one not see the difference between an accidental death, and a doctor going in and ending a life?
     
  23. Unifier

    Unifier New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    14,479
    Likes Received:
    531
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It's not that they don't see it. It's that they choose to ignore it because it's inconvenient and ruins their argument. It's active denial.
     
  24. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    6,488
    Likes Received:
    2,220
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Unifier, please stop lying about what I supposedly believe.

    People like Unifier are why the term "pro-lie" is so commonly used to describe the pro-life side.
     
  25. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    27,293
    Likes Received:
    4,346
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Having seen an ultrasound (wife had one while I was present) and gotten a rectal exam, there is no comparison in terms of invasiveness. The only similarity between the two is that jelly is used for lubrication.
     

Share This Page