Christianity & Islam Similarities

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    To be a "god", it must be in a place no one can access? And are also invisible to us?
    And they exist to us, how?
     
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    I consider supernatural beings whose actions are not bound by the laws of physics to be divine. If there is a supreme deity, the counterpart is one or more lesser deities.
     
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    So do you feel it is wrong to draw a picture of a fish, say?
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    Do you feel yours is the one True church?
     
  4. John.

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    I am saying neither. I am saying that the concepts they both use share an approximate origin. However, those concepts deviate from each other to a degree that one concept cannot be mapped to the other. They are incompatible and not identical.

    1) Christians do not worship a god that does not have Jesus Christ as his son.
    2) Jesus Christ is not Allah's son.

    Conclusion: Christians do not worship Allah.
     
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    And if it is a misunderstanding that Jesus was the "son of god"?
     
  6. Margot2

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    John.. the Jews don't worship Jesus either... but all three worship the same god.
     
  7. dairyair

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    Try the perspective they evolved from jewish religion.
    They do have a similar message. I don't think the jewish religion has a eternal fire pit termed hell.
     
  8. John.

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    I'm not sure of the question. I did not make those claims.

    I said that dieties (should have qualified with "often") dwell in places that are inaccessible or hidden from humans. Examples would be Kolob, Mount Olympus, Hades, Asgard, Nibiru, or Heaven.

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    A misunderstanding by whom?
     
  9. John.

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    They do not.

    The model for the Christian god is is loosely based on the Jewish god and loosely based on the Greek structure. The model for the Muslim god is based somewhat on the shared Christian and Jewish concepts and is somewhat modeled after the tribal belief system.
     
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    What tribal belief system was that?
     
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    Everyone who says it.
     
  12. John.

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    The "pre-Islamic" one.

    When the Kaaba was a house dedicated to Hubal, before anyone made any attempt to identify it with Abraham.

    Arabs practiced Judaism and Christianity at that time, but these were typically "folk" versions.

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    What if it were? That is not the only or necessarily primary deviation between the two.
     
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    Most were pagan...... There were some Nestorians in the South at Najran and on Tarut Island on the Saudi East Coast.
     
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    But they are only 'supernatural' because we do not recognise the existence in which they live. Perhaps the 'world' in which they live is the 'true' world and we are the 'supernatural', bound by 'our' physical law, while they are free of them. Who knows? 'String Theory'?
     
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    Then you knew what tribal associations I was making.
     
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    My apologies but I don't find those questions useful.

    What I do find useful is making categorical associations based on how closely two objects are related, which is why I can justify stating that the Abrahmic faiths are similar in quite a number of ways, but can still identify that they are not the same, nor are the objects of their devotion identical.

    In the same manner I can categorize angels as deities based on their association to the concept of gods in contrast to any other entity you can name. As abstractions go, they are not "God" but a facsimile to a range of god-types that we find in mythology, pagan belief, epics, the bible, and the modern replacement for these: the comic book.
     
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    I am no expert on Saudi tribes.
     
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    Fair enough. Neither am I.
     
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    Hmm, we seem on different topics. Anyone who thinks "Jesus" was the "son of god" is barking up the wrong tree, but then, all of those middle eastern sky god religions are something the world would be better to have been spared. The whole middle east should have been a continental shelf area.
     
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    That God died with the collapse of the Babylonian Empire and the death of the last Babylonian Emperor. That's why God hasn't shown himself since then.
     
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    What topic are you on?
     
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    What do you mean continental shelf area?
     
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    As in underwater. Good fishing area.
     
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    NO.. I love the ME.. The desert is beautiful and there's no light pollution.. The people are friendly and hospitable ...

    The souks are exotic..

    Its not all barking loons and terrorists.
     
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    Oh, its just my way of saying that if it had all been underwater,the world would have been spared
    those sky-god religions.
     

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