Christianity & Islam Similarities

According to the Bible one of the first racists was Rebekah, Isaac's wife. She was a real _____.

 

Those Middle East Asian religions are some intolerant folks aren't they?
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/religious_tolerance/dt13_13-15.html

http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/racial tolerance/dt23_03a.html

 

I didnt quote any verses regarding women, children, crops trees or water soooooooo, no.

 

The Torah has no hate, as far as I remember. The Torah is just the first five books of the Old Testament. Then again, I can't be sure if the Jewish version is the same as the Christian version...

Jesus was against and preached against the Pharisees.

 

That's the Pentateuch .. and it was supposedly written by Moses who was a Horite.

 

Jeez Margot, did you go to bible school or something

 

I used to attend Wednesday night Bible Study for years. I enjoyed it.

 

Jesus believed in everything that the Pharisees believed in. He was just heretical about some things.

 

38 You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
39 But I say to you, Do not resist the evil man [who injures you]; but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, turn to him the other one too.

40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your undershirt (tunic), let him have your coat also.

41 And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two [miles].

42 Give to him who keeps on begging from you, and do not turn away from him who would borrow [[a]at interest] from you.
43 You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy;
44 But I tell you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45 To show that you are the children of your Father Who is in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the wicked and on the good, and makes the rain fall upon the upright and the wrongdoers [alike].

 

That's not true.. Jesus taught non -violent liberation theology.. or how to cope with the Roman occupation. The Pharisees were the inheritors of the Levites who invented their own laws and rituals to preserve Jewish identity.

 

The Pharisees believed in angels, demons, spirits, resurrections.

Jesus believed in angels, demons, spirits, and resurrections.

Therefore Jesus was a Pharisee. The Sadducees thought all of that stuff was BS. So Jesus wasn't a Sadducee.

 

Why not read about the Pharisees following the laws and rituals invented by Leviticus and Deuteronomy....

 

That would be true if those four things were what defined being a Pharisee.
There is far more to it than that, so the logic is faulty.
That's like saying Jesus had hair, a nose, could run and ate what was available to him, so he was a dog.
Do you see the problem?

 

Someone may accept Christian values but not be a christian.

 

Well, Jesus was always calling Gentiles dogs and swine.

He shared the main Pharisee beliefs so he was a Pharisee. He certainly wasn't a Sadducee.

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What are the unique Christian values?

 

Did Jesus call Gentiles dogs and swine??? I don't remember that.

Have you got scripture?

 

Of course I have scripture for everything I write. I expect other people to be knowledgeable about their favorite ethnocentric religious fairy tales.

Matthew 7:6 (NKJV) = “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."

Matthew 15:25-26 (NKJV) =
"Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!”
But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.”

Mark 7:26-27 (NLT) =
"and she begged him to cast out the demon from her daughter.
Since she was a Gentile, born in Syrian Phoenicia, Jesus told her, “First I should feed the children—my own family, the Jews. It isn’t right to take food from the children and throw it to the dogs.”

 

I guess he did at that.

 

Don't forget that at that time it was unlawful for Jews to associate with Gentiles per Jewish law. Jesus never had anything to do with Gentiles if he could avoid it. He barely spoke to the Gentile Pilate.

 

He was neither. That was part of the point.

 

Neither the Koran in its entirety or the context of the specific subject matter under discussion is about defensive war.

 

Not sure what you are accusining me of. The sweeping generalization you made here is not anything to do with what I said.

We are talking about the distinction between two books and the intolerant messages found within. We are not talking about "folks."


Let's keep to the real subject, please. I have no need to defend this strawman. It's not a position I have ever held.

 

Will somebody PLEASE tell me what will stop Islamic expansion?

Once that is no longer a threat and a reformation of Islam, as some suggest, has taken place, and once the threat from the millions of traditionalist, fundamentalist, PURE Muslims is eliminated -

And the plan stops right there.

The difference between the Sunni sect of Islam and the Shia is basically a case of traditionalists VS 'an off-shoot sect."

About 50 years after Muhammad died the Shia sect began in the year 680.

They've been warring and killing each other ever since, I believe.

So, if there ever WAS a reformation of Islam the prospects of ever getting complete, total, universal acceptance and peaceful compliance by the global population of Muslims looks to be none.

So the likelihood of stopping the cancerous growth of Islam before it has the upper hand over the U.S. seems slim.

So I'm hoping someone will tell me what will stop them.

 

The Arab world was mostly sleepy and apolitical.

 

There are no unique Christian values. There is a unique Christian doctrine - Jesus the only begotten Son of God. Even if you accept that fact it is the personal acceptance of Him as the crucified/risen Saviour - your Saviour - that makes you a Christian.