Why are Catholics (outspoken ones) hated so much?

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  1. AKR

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    Nothing better to contribute than trolling?
     
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    Counterquestion: What do you suggest should we Catholics do to solve our problems? What says the Holy Spirit to you?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1meJgdb5SUI
     
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    I thought you said you learned from the Left?
     
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    It's simple: People are uncomfortable with the idea of someone truly believing with conviction in anything. I am not a Catholic, and have no dog in this fight, but the same thing is seen with Tim Tebow. He is hated because he has the audacity of not only believing in something completely, but also makes no qualms about it. People are weak, and cannot accept the fact that someone can be that confident. There are a lot of haters out there, and it is much easier to hope someone fails than to try and "outdo" them.

    Another reason is that people don't like the idea of consequences. What happens if the Catholic church is correct? Most of us are screwed......and people don't like that.
     
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    Because Catholics are fascists who sold out the Bible.
     
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    I'd like to see some articles or other sources that shows this oppression of Catholics.

    One thing you have to remember is that the Catholic Church and Christianity itself has done s lot of harm in the world.

    So there will be a lot of hostility.

    However I do not support the attitude of "they hurt me so I've got to hurt them back". It just creates a never ending circular argument.
     
  8. munter

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    Catholics sided with Mussolini, Hitler,+ a whole host of fascistic South American dictators - nuff said!
     
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    Catholics also opposed Mussolini, Hitler and a whole host of fascist South American dictators. And I point that out, being a Protestant myself:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology
     
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    But not officially as an organization.
     
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    You'll find that even officially as an organization the Catholic stance on dictators was not quite as supportive as munter likes to think they were:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany
     
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    My parents switched churches when I was young, and we started attending Catholic church. I was even confirmed. It was the most miserable experience of my life. It was rigid, and I felt constantly judged. Needless to say, I am no longer Catholic. I'm not a part of any religion now. Agnosticism is where I find peace. Having said that -- Catholicism isn't the reason, but it definitely contributed.

    Evangelizing is quite annoying. When people do it, there's an underlying meaning that bleeds through their words -- because you don't believe, you are wrong and I am here to show you the way. And if you aren't convinced? Well, they'll just pray for you, which means that hopefully their prayers will save you.
     
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    what do you mean by "If they evangelize"? to who would they be "evangelizing"?

    my Grandfather was kicked out of the Catholic Church for marring a Baptist... God forbid.... why was she hated so by the church? was it because she was the wrong kinda Christian?

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    Goes back to Luther. The Popes were not exactly the best human beings on the planet back then.
     
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    I don't hate Catholics (or anyone)....But I find them disgusting. They support an entity that has protected, hidden, paid, supported and supplied known child rapers. I haven't even heard loud outcries against their leaders who helped rape children. I haven't heard of massive desertions from the Cathoilic Church by members who have morals.....don't they have any? Or don't any of them find raping children as immoral....
     
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    Try being Jewish sometime. Or atheist.

    Although, granted, as screwed up as the Catholics (collectively) are many branches of Protestantism are vastly worse. Like the snake handlers and the hate spewing Southern Baptists where I once attended with a school friend. I wasn't aware that Catholics were the recipients of much real hate. Though it seemed to be somewhat of an issue when the Kennedys were running for office. But those who based their faith on the work of Martin Luther are prone to such things.
     
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    The Church / Vatican sided with Hitler and Mussolini.

    That finished them off from any kind of moral high ground.
     
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    Who sided with Stalin and Churchill? No moral high ground there either.
     
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    I'm a Misanthrope, I have a lot of hostility towards people period.

    Sometimes I try to overcome it, but most of the time I don't want to be around them.

    However, I also have a need to discuss things I'm interested with other people. I also love learning about things.

    I'm just incredibly frustrated with the whole western attitude that "if you're not like me then I'll put you down any way I can" crap.

    Basically I'm tired of western cultural intolerance. It's a huge turn off you know.
     
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    The anti-Catholic movement in America pre-dates the child abuse cases. Look up the Know Nothing Party from the 1800's. If you really dig deeper into this sentiment, you will see it goes back centuries. We are products of our past even if we are ignorant of the past.
     
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    At the core of this comment is a disconnect from the reality of Christian history. The Catholic (universal) Church is the direct outcome of the Nicean Council which created the text, dogma and themes of the Christian faith. There really was no Christian religion prior to the council. It was merely a bunch of people with stories and opinions about the life of Jesus and what it meant to believe in him. So the notion that the Catholic Church was never really a Christian religion is absurd, it is the Christian religion, all others are offshoots of this religion. If the comment is directed at the failure of Catholics to live up to their religion, then stand in line with every single other human being, religion or sect that followed because no one has ever been a perfect Christian. You cannot even tell me with authority what it means to be a perfect Christian because the faith itself has been arguing about this for over 1900 years.
     
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    In Italy they don't hate Catholics [!]. From my perspective of external observer [I'm Protestant], in their own environment [a Catholic State], Catholics are not that traditional or extremist. Sure they are odd: more than 85% of Italians are Catholics, but there is no more a Catholic party [once there was the "Democrazia Cristiana"], all Italians think that the Vatican hides something, overall the activities of its notorious bank [IOR - a real black hole], Church hierarchy is still considered a social power [able to orientate the electorate, with or without a Catholic party] ... and ... all Italians know that it's better not to trust priests too much.
     
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    I'm sure that child raping by church personnel goes back centuries....again I find those who support it(EVERY member of the Catholic Church), as disgusting
     
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    So you judge the hell out of people...

    ...for being judgmental.

    But at least you're not faltering in your tireless crusade against logic. :)
     

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