Why are Catholics (outspoken ones) hated so much?

I recall a poster, had an image of Christ and the words. "Four books, 2 million words, 2,000 years. And still have no idea what I was talking about"

 

I'm not against logic.

Just the attitude that we all have to be the same as one another and conform to some people's specific ideology. What usually follows is elitist attitudes that because these people to look down and insult and berate others just for not being like them.

It's a typical western cultural attitude. One that I have an exceptional amount of hostility for.

And it's ironic because they claim that America is built on individualism, inalienable rights, civil liberties, and the right of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And as far as being judgmental goes, the Bible says "judge not lest ye be judged in kind".

Remember a lot of you people operate by maxims such as "it's okay to be a jerk to a person who's being a jerk" and "all is fair in love and war".

So, please stop personally attacking me because I am not like you. I know you don't like me, and I don't care.

 

Perhaps I misunderstood you then. Are you arguing that the Catholic Church behaves in an un-christian like manner or is not a Christian religion? Your post here makes no sense to me, please explain. thank you.

 

All quite true but then you are talking about the behavior of the Church not the Christianity of the Church. They are two separate issues. Protestants that declare the Catholic faith to be un-Christian is a long argument that started with Luther and continues to this day. But this argument originates in the first 500 years of the religion and was settled once and for all by Constantine and the Nicean Council. To say that the Catholic Church is not Christian is to deny it's very existence as the authority on the Bible. I understand that the religion had critics from the beginning and that it actually split into two camps in the Dark Ages. Protestants only came about in the last 500 years of the church. I would have more sympathy for their arguments if they were Copts, Orthodox or Armenian variants. This has been going on for the entire existence of Christianity. It is the same with Judaism and Islam, same kind of splintering and arguing over dogma, faith and meaning. I guess my view is that if indeed any of these religions reflect the will of God, God obviously cannot write or dictate a clear message to anyone. Think about it. The master of the Universe cannot write or say what he means clearly enough to avoid the confusion. Some may say this is due to human error. Since God knows everything, why not just hard wire the truth into our brains and end the arguments, wars, pogroms, jihads and so on? Because then we would have no free will...Oh I get it, because man is bad and cannot figure out the truth and the will of God, lets make up the idea of free will so we can avoid blaming God for evil and injustice, disease, wars, birth defects and so on. Very convenient and purposely created by the founders of the religions. Just because the ancients were ignorant does not mean they were stupid. Philosophy and logic was the playground of the few who were educated back then. They all knew the various traps in creating a new monotheism and covered themselves very creatively. That is all religion is folks, clever philosophical arguments made by superstitious men to control the lives of men and make some sense out of the madness of the ancient world. It has virtually no bearing on the modern world though. We are not competing with sects and pagans and other religions, we are competing with truth as revealed by science and education.

 

Why stop at child raping? The past is filled with even worse horrors. Of course, this is also true of just about every religion, every nation, every tribe and every civilization. I too am shocked that a modern church would be so callous. But do you really think we are above the fray? You and I sit here while our drones are killing innocents all over the world yet we say nothing. We killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's and cheered about it on TV. No, the ideal is always a dream, we are but mere mortals.

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I say plenty to my Senators, said plenty and protested the illegal unnecessary war in Iraq...but I wouldn't voluntarily belong to a religion, or support a religion, that that supported such evil people.
Living in the US my taxes , which are not mine once I pay them, are used for lots of things I don't approve of but I was born here and can't afford to leave...CATHOLICS can ALWAYS withdraw their support and leave that religion without even leaving their homes...IF they had morals...

 

As a former Catholic, I agree. But my flight from religion took place much earlier than the recent revelations about child molestation. I fled when I could think for myself. I was 12.

 

I was later, at eighteen, the second I left my parent's (Catholics) house ... I had always thought the rules and rituals were meaingless and got nothing out of it...

 

Angry people always are.

Yeah, I get it: people look down their noses at you and you resent the subsequent feeling of inferiority. What you fail to realize is that your susceptibility to that feeling has nothing to do with those people, however overbearing they may be, and everything to do with your own hostility, which you foolishly see as a defense against such attacks on your psyche. Perhaps Nelson Mandela put it best when he observed that resentment is like drinking poison in the hope of killing your enemy.

Why should I remember that?

You misperceive exposition of a character flaw as a personal attack because you misperceive said flaw as essential to your personhood - which, if you reflect on it, you will see as crazy.

Seeing I haven't even formed any opinion along those lines one way or the other, I can say with authority that you don't know any such thing.

 

Protestants in the American south view Catholicism as a less enlightened, somewhat inferior brand of Christianity. They don't hate them though.
I find it ironic considering that the Catholic Church existed over a millennium earlier and continues to stay unified. There are tens of thousands of Protestant denominations...all convinced they have it right.