HOW am I wrong? You declare women have PROcreational sex so they can abort.....do you know what PROcreation means?
First part is nothing but opinion with no basis in fact. You only consider it being out of control because it does not fit into your perspective. Second part - whose morals, yours? Why should I or any other person be forced to adhere to your moral viewpoint?
Nice appeal to tradition, which of course has no relevance to reality. Your assumption that something from the past that has been adhered to MUST be right and is not subject to change reveals that you only wallow in the past . .from your logic slavery and rape within marriage must still be ok as they are both based on " traditional morals and values"
Why would any woman care what you think about what kind of sex they should or shouldn't have? Are you an expert or some kind of authority on the subject? They will have the kind of sex they want regardless of what you think. Sorry to break that to you. No, I want women to make their own decisions about their own bodies. And if treating women like breeding stock is a traditional "value," then it's time for a new tradition. BTW, many religious women support abortion rights.
I didn't ask you why 'any woman would care what I think' I asked you if you speak for all women which obviously you can't address. I never claimed to be an expert but I do know that procreational sex is designed by nature to produce offspring. A fact of life you are either ignorant of or are purposely obfuscating in favor of your obvious death cult beliefs. Your silly hyperbola is duly noted.
If you are going to continue with this line of absurdity, I will have to say that yes, I can speak for women in general when I say they don't care what you think about the kind of sex they should have or not have. And that is why women who don't want to be pregnant don't engage in procreational sex. They use birth control.
Another outright lie, I never said I cared about what kind of sex women have. And no, you DO NOT 'speak for women in general.' Procreational type sex is penis in vagina whether BC is used or not. BC is not 100% effective and, with the number of abortions, BC is either not very effective or women just ignore it.
Could you tell me what your definition of "PROcreational" sex is? If a couple is trying to PROcreate why would they use BC ???????
Some birth control isn't effective, some women don't use it before sex, some women can't afford it after Republicans shut down clinics that are affordable and accessible... But that doesn't matter...if it doesn't work they can use another form of birth control, abortion.... THEIR choice ...and not yours....
You said... which is obviously stating what kind of sex women should or should not have. Stop weaseling. Not true. Sexual intercourse can be procreational if the goal is to produce a baby, or it can be non-procreational if reproduction is not the goal. Do you really think when a post-menopausal woman has sexual intercourse, it is procreational sex?
Definitely it is irresponsible to have sex without using some kind of contraception if the objective of that sex is not procreation. Accidents do happen though and when they do it is good to be able to make an informed decision. Making an informed decision means being in possession of the facts. Using obfuscative terminology such as "developing life" is an attempt to cloud the facts. There is no life of a human in the early stages of pregnancy as a human does not yet exist. Contraception is a form of reproductive control. Animals have no such ability. Abortion is also a form of reproductive control.
Taking quotes out of context again I see in your continuing lies in order to preserve your death cult. And YOU wrote: "don't engage in procreational sex." So...'obviously' you agree with me. (See how this works?) Well....Apparently with millions of abortions every year, your goal of no-pregnant intercourse is going down in flames. All the while you promote abortion like it was some religion. A death cult religion at that. I already explained what my definition that procreational-type sex is which is penis in vagina. A post-menopausal woman has no need for an abortion if she can't get pregnant and, after all, abortion is the subject here. You are moving the goal posts and obfuscating once again.
Yeah, she can decide to kill the little 'accident' I suppose. How is calling a developing fetus a 'developing life' clouding the facts? "Life of a human?" Wow, talk about clouding the facts. I never said a human exists I said a fetus is a developing human life. You turned it around in order to change the subject. So...You are saying that contraception doesn't work...got it.
Adolf Hitler would have killed undesirable 'breeds' in the womb...something anti-lifers want our government to do which, is right in line with the goals of the founder of Planned Parenthood.
Considering the fact that Sanger was pro-life I find your comment somewhat ironic, oh and please do explain which particular breed pro-choicers want to kill in the womb. I always find it amusing when pro-lifers attempt to form some sort of link between Nazi Germany and pro-choice people, especially as Nazi Germany had many ideologies that align firmly into the pro-life dogma. The truth of the matter is that Nazi Germany was never pro-choice, given that they removed the choice from women regarding pregnancy and abortion .. certainly sounds very much like the pro-life ideology to me. Nazi Germany made all abortions for German women illegal, and removed the choice of non-German women to remain pregnant thus forcing them to under-go abortions .. would you care to provide a single proposition from ANY pro-choice group that states that a women should be forced to either remain pregnant or to have an abortion, where as pro-lifers DO want to force a woman to remain pregnant ergo pro-lifers are far closer to the Nazi ideology than pro-choicers will ever be.
My quoting only the relevant part of your post did not change its meaning. Now you are weaseling AND dishonest. I didn't change the meaning of your words, and you know it. Are pro-lifers always so dishonest? Millions? 1.2 million in the US and declining. OK then, why don't you just convince everyone not to have intercourse? Are you trolling? Seems like you are. Sorry, you can't make up your own definitions. Post-menopausal women have "penis in vagina" sex, and it is NOT procreational.
And since you advocate PROcreational sex only I don't imagine your sex life is all bells and whistles....it may shock you to learn lots of people do it for fun ...really...
I don't know any "anti-lifers", but pro-choicers want the government to stay out of reproductive decisions. You do understand that a government powerful enough to forbid abortions is powerful enough to require them? The goal of all of Sanger's work was to save the lives of women, women who were dying too young from too frequent child-bearing or from illegal abortions.
Yes she can ... nothing wrong with killing a few cells. It is disingenuous ambiguity calculated to elevate the status of the single cell at conception (or a few cells) to something it is not. Good that you understand that no human exists. If there is no human existing then why do you have a problem with ending the life of this entity ? Contraception often works .. You got it wrong
