Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’

As the Hindus say, Tat vsam asi, or Thou are That. So, this is God doing all of what we see as horrible, doing it to Himself. Why should you care? The insect that burrows into the eyes is also God. He is in all things. I guess he must have been rather bored and created this Universe with much excitement in it.

 

The only hoop jumping I made you do was you avoiding answering those inconvenient questions......

My butt is fine, I don't know why it interests you.........

 

Go to post 10. (*)(*)(*)(*) any extremist regardless of the flavor. I will let the rest of the worlds higher enlighten thinkers debate the shades of life and hit on a hookah.

 

So why is "Reality" so desperately concerned with people having sex "the wrong way", Dave?

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So the description of "God" in the Bible is false?

 

You do realize Stephen Fry doesn't believe in god, right? The scenario he paints is a hypothetical one, illustrating the flaws of the concept of a god that christians have forced upon the world for so long.

Apparently the concept of a hypothetical scenario is so completely and utterly arcane that some people simply cannot grasp it.

 

You must have some standard by which you assess imperfection and that HAS to be based on some idea of what perfection would look like.

 

The "Reality" is that sexually promiscuous societies ALWAYS end in destruction.
That is just a fact from History.


Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away (in the spirit of thought), into the wilderness (of my imagination) and I saw (as if) a woman, ...



.... (those who have Institutionized a system of sexual seduction into a failed matrimony), sit upon a scarlet coloured beast (of a brazen and corrupt sexually misdirected economic system: [Dan 3:1-5]), full of names of (Pagan) blasphemy, having seven heads:
(which existed in (1) Egypt, (2) Assyria, (3) Babylon, (4) Persia/Mede, (5) Greece, (6) Rome (7) the whole of Western Culture to follow)...



... having ten horns upon these seven heads:

(1. Undivided Empire; capital Rome: [305 AD],

2. Western Roman Empire: (Romulus Augustus): [to 476 AD],

3. Eastern Roman: Byzantine Empire, [1453 AD]

4. Charlemagne, [800 - 1000 AD]

5. Holy Roman Empire, [1200 AD-1492 AD]

6. Italy, [Renaissance, 16th century]

7. Spain, [17th century]

8. France, [18th-19th Century]

9. Britain, [19th-20th century]

10. Nazi Germany, [20th century])

11). (America?)

 

I said not able to define the entirety of perfection in a human.
Is a genius an example of human perfection? Obviously not, as steven hawking so graphically demonstrates.


Perfection is an abstract and substantially subjective condition when attempts to apply it to people.

 

I don't believe in the literal and inerrant word of the bible so you shouldn't ask me.
But in my opinion, if you care, we just cannot know what God is or what his plan, if any, involves. But I am certain there is a God.

 

"The seven headed beast, which is represented here by the 15 countries listed here..."

What?

 

but an inner experience that affects your heart and how you perceive the world and everything around you.

The problem with Yous Peoples is Yous believe such endowment is uniquely "human".

My 3 cats are more "human" that most people types.​

Moi
Trapped in a universe
not of my choosing


r > g

No ​

 

I most respectfully point out that you apparently didn't read the very first sentence of my post, if I may. As a result your impression of my insights may be askew.
I hope this post has been of some help to you in understanding my full post. Have a super wonderful day.

 

The evil, jealous and madly selfish traits of the god aren't much worth of attention, - it's that the ideas appeal so tremendously to the human mind.

 

OK so you CAN identify at least some perfection in human beings. What standard do you use?

 

Then we don't really need the god at all.

 

An admixture of social norms, scientific measurement and personal opinion.

 

You seem to have missed his entire message. He was saying that your god, or at least your belief in one, is the ignorant childish copout.

 

Oh! Has he? I hadn't noticed. But seriously...

Fry is angry because children get bone cancer yet he doesn't believe God exists so how stupid is it to get angry at a being he denies? He has what he wants most (or so he believes). A world without God. So what's he complaining about?
So he thinks a belief in God is ridiculous...so what? Considering HIS inconsistent and absurd belief system
who's he to judge?

 

He's referring to YOUR god, not his. Your omnipotent god is the POS he's unhappy with. The one who allows children's bone cancer. In his world, and mine, it's simply the way it is. That's the purer, simpler cleaner version of the universe. A neutral one that does not give one single (*)(*)(*)(*) about you or me, rather than a capricious, intervening, reward-and-punishment
controller.

 

IMO, the complaint is, why do so many think this creator god is so loving, caring, and nurturing?

 

How can you be so angry towards God, when according to you he's non existent? Wouldn't that be an oxymoron?

 

Perfection is to become more God like.

Saint Porphyrios:

Man has such powers that he can transmit good or evil to his environment. These matters are very delicate. Great care is needed. We need to see everything in a positive frame of mind. We mustn’t think anything evil about others. Even a simple glance or a sigh influences those around us. And even the slightest anger or indignation does harm. We need to have goodness and love in our soul and to transmit these things.

We need to be careful not to harbour any resentment against those who harm us, but rather to pray for them with love. Whatever any of our fellow men does, we should never think evil of him. We need always to have thoughts of love and always to think good of others. Look at Saint Stephen the first martyr. He prayed, Lord, do not hold this sin against them. We need to do the same.

 

"Good or Evil" are subject to interpretation. Some radical Islamists think 'good' is cutting off the head of an 'infidel.'

 

Yes. He has no God to condemn or praise.

Whether God is worthless to you (or Fry) because the world is not a paradise and bad things happen to some people or not isn't the point.
The world is exactly the way Fry likes it...there is no God (as far as he is concerned). So what's he (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about?

 

Some children get cancer and live under the most horrendous of parents.
Others are perfectly healthy and happy and live surrounded by love.
So is God an "evil, capricious, monstrous maniac"? Or clearly something else entirely?