Trump: 'Many people jumped and I witnessed it' on 9/11

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is amazing.

    This man saw so much in person on 9/11. One more thing he saw was people jumping from the towers. He watched it from the balcony in his apartment.

    Just one problem.

    That balcony is more than 4 miles away.

    Now, my eyesight is correctable to 20/20, but otherwise not terrible. I do wear glasses to read, but I can still see a duck, against a blue sky, from 500 yards away flying around.

    But to see people from more than 4 miles, or more than 7,040 yards? Pretty impressive there Donald.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/23/politics/donald-trump-9-11-twin-towers/

    Donald Trump said Monday that he witnessed people jumping out of the Twin Towers on 9/11 from the view in his apartment.

    "Many people jumped and I witnessed it, I watched that. I have a view -- a view in my apartment that was specifically aimed at the World Trade Center," Trump said Monday during a rally in Columbus, Ohio.

    "And I watched those people jump and I watched the second plane hit ... I saw the second plane hit the building and I said, 'Wow that's unbelievable,'" Trump continued.

    At least 200 people are believed to have jumped from the Twin Towers after planes struck the towers in an attack that claimed more than 2,600 lives.

    The Republican presidential contender lives in Trump Tower in midtown Manhattan, more than four miles away from where the World Trade Center towers once stood. Trump has lived in the 5th Avenue tower since before the attacks, according to media reports pre-dating 9/11.

    The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment asking how Trump witnessed people jumping out of the Twin Towers from more than four miles away.

    Trump on Monday also dug into his claim that Muslims in New Jersey celebrated the terrorist attacks on 9/11, a claim that has been widely debunked by multiple fact-checkers.

    Adviser: Trump 'probably right' on disputed 9/11 claim

    Ben Carson, a rival Republican presidential candidate, initially backed Trump's claim about American Muslims celebrating the terrorist attacks. But on Monday his campaign walked back Carson's statement.

    "Dr. Carson does not stand behind the statement attributed to him early today regarding events surrounding 9/11. He does not believe Muslim Americans in New Jersey were celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers," Carson communications director Doug Watts said Monday in a statement.

    In a classic stump speech Monday, Trump captivated a crowd of supporters by talking up his front-runner standing in the latest polls, mocking Ohio Gov. John Kasich's bottom-tier poll numbers, and slamming the press for covering a violent altercation at his previous rally between a Black Lives Matter protester and several white attendees.

    Several hecklers at Monday's event were escorted out by police, and audible boos could be heard in the crowd during parts of his speech.

    But Trump's biggest applause lines came when he talked up his positions on combating terrorism.

    After touting his strong approval numbers in recent polls on how he would handle the economy and lead the country, Trump stated that voters also "love him on terrorism," to which the crowd erupted in applause.

    Trump later played up his support for waterboarding, drawing cheers from the crowd.

    "Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would," the candidate said of the practice, which is considered torture under international conventions.

    President George W. Bush authorized the interrogation technique under his administration, a practice President Barack Obama condemned and officially ended when he entered office.

    Trump insisted that the U.S. should reinstate the practice because it pales in comparison to ISIS' violence, citing the numerous beheadings and brutal executions the terrorist group has carried out.

    Critics contend the practice has been proven unreliable and largely ineffective compared to standard interrogation techniques.

    But Trump insisted that the approach gets results: "Don't kid yourselves folks, it works."

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    The brash billionaire also didn't back down from his controversial comments that he would consider shutting down mosques or putting Islamic houses of worship in the U.S. under surveillance to guard against future terror attacks.

    "We have great people in the Muslim population, but something's happening. Something's happening. I always say they're not coming from Sweden that want to kill us, they're not coming from Norway, they're not coming from Denmark. They're coming from a certain part of the world with a certain philosophy," Trump said. "We have to have strong surveill
     
  2. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

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    With a telescope, something not uncommon in NYC luxury balconies, he easily could have seen it. He did say "specifically aimed" which could mean anything, telescope, cameras from closer locations with video feeds. He is quite wealthy and can easily afford luxuries like that.

    Just saying.
     
  3. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, with a telescope.

    I am more of the mind he is simply making crap up. Isn't that more likely than him having a telescope or a video feed?
     
  4. LokkiFreeWorld

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    I will also point out that the NJ police force has said he is full of it. As well as he claimed that he saw Muslims in NJ cheering as the towers fell, how could he be in NY and NJ at the same time?
     
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    Possibly? But does it actually matter? He could've been watching it on TV from his balcony. Obama said his son would look like a a teenager who attempted to murder someone. Was that ACTUALLY true? Was it a fact? Did you care? Probably not. Are they both full of shiznit? Probably.

    And having a telescope on your luxury balcony in NYC is VERY common. It shouldn't surprise anyone. I'd have one with that kind of view. He probably uses it to look in people's windows most of the time=)
     
  6. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or he simply could be full of crap and his supporters will accept it not because of its accuracy, but out of adoration.
     
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    Isn't it obvious? He knows he's going to lose the election, so he's gunning for sainthood instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilocation
     
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    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about you guys, but if I'm told planes are hitting buildings... I'm leaving my high-rise with a balcony view.
     
  9. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    C'mon now. If you ever ran for president, how would that give you awesome stories to tell? Too logical.
     
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    His fawning psycophants certainly don't care.

    Trump makes stuff up all the time. Guys like you cheer.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any evidence that he is lying?

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    To go where?
     
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    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    The Bronx. Terrorists want no parts of the Bronx.
     
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    Actually, yes I do the cops "I mean authorities" even mentioned that about three cases had been investigated and debunked. The one video that the conservative loved to post about Muslims abroad that were dancing in the street was a rally for when Turkey shot down a Israeli rocket. Hell even CCN admits that they lied about when this supposed celebration took place and removed the video. Because they are seven hours ahead of us the video was still in daylight, how come these celebrations were still in daylight when around 10:00 am they would be in the evening time over their it was bull crap. I know that cnn says it didn't lie about the footage but you could just tell how stupid that was when the they pulled it off the air.
     
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    Trump ought to seriously consider changing his last name to Nixon.
     
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    If Trump Lied About 9/11 Celebrations in NJ -

    Why did the Washington Post report it in 2011?

    Well, the actual post article is @ http://www.scribd.com/doc/290767616/Northern-New-Jersey-Draws-Probers-Eyes although difficult to read.

    Read the story @ http://canadafreepress.com/print-friendly/77009

    More links to other stories on the same topic @ http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2015/11/new-jersey-tailgaters-cheered-terrorist.html

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    I Live In Jersey And Trump Is Right: Muslims DID Celebrate On 9/11 In NJ . . . We Saw It!

    Read the full story @ http://www.prisonplanet.com/i-live-in-jersey-and-trump-is-right-muslims-did-celebrate-on-911-in-nj-we-saw-it.html
     
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    Meta Key: The media didn't make Trump. They cannot take him down.

    NOTHING in the WaPo will ever matter. NOTHING!
     
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    More likely than him having a telescope? Really? My kid had a telescope.
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did he or she see the people jumping?
     
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    supaskip Well-Known Member

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    If my house was within range, and I had access to the telescope, I would probably be using it.
    I would prefer high powered binoculars, which we also have. I see no reason why Trump wouldn't have anything like that in an apartment in NY. People watching is a great past time; more so when you are rich, I would imagine.
     
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    But, given Trump's track record, it's a lot more likely that he made it up.

    He knows that he can get away with it as long as he feeds trash talk to his adoring fans,
     
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    He may well have made it up, but I don't really see why he would. That day, everyone was watching the towers in some way...
    Regardless, who the hell cares? How has trump got people debating if he has a telescope or not? :bleh:
     
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    I still stand by my initial statement that Trump is in the race to help get Hillary elected.
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well,it would be convenient to his wonderful story, wouldn't it?
     
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    Usually stories rely on the content within them, so "convenient" is not quite the word I'd use.
     
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