Royal Air Force Pilots Ordered To Shoot Down "Hostile" Russian Jets Over Syria

Do you believe in this?

 

Russia would absolutely love to get some top of the line Russian fighter jets, piloted by Russian pilots, to go up against Britain's old lame Tornado's. It would be epic.

 

Do you have a problem with the truth?

 

Its truth in "Matrix" mode...U said that Russia starts 100+ wars and the west scum non.Is this truth?Do you believe in this.I see you are from Sweden, how about yours Nazi past?Oh yes,I forgot , Russians attack west world,so the west had to create Nazis to liberate from Russians,including your own country.Is this true?I dont believe,do you?

 

And you think any of that makes sense... really?

 

Its ironic..point is, world isnt black & whit like you saw it, its gray..But the west propaganda is Goebbels pupil.You must liberate yourself from that.

 

Well, now, you are back to the old straw man argument. What makes you think I view the world in black and white? Sure there are gray areas. But there is nothing gray about Russia's illegal invasions, occupations, and annexations of the lands of her neighbors. There is nothing gray about Russia's expansionism and Putin's dictatorship. There is nothing gray about theft and murder.

There are many things which are very disconcerting about Russia. Chief among them is Putin's reversion to dictatorship and fascism. His war on Russia's free press and his total control of the Russian media which is very reminiscent of Soviet times is very concerning. What's disconcerting about Russia is its recklessness and apparent inability to control elements of its military. What's disconcerting is repeating the geopolitical moves and even the excuses of Nazi Germany.

 

A normal military parlance,
return fire if you are fired upon.

 

And what US , and NATO doing?what they are doing in all those country?Iraq,Afghanistan,Libya,Somalia,SFRY(Yugoslavia),Vietnam etc?What?Killing more people than Hitler!!!!How many people they kill? Is anyone call them to SFRY?Maybe UN?So they broke international law.Anyway,they are not invited in Syria,not by Syrian people,not by UN,so they are all aggressors!!!If russians shoot down some NATO aircraft(back to topic),all they can do is seat and weaning , nothing more,nothing less.Its the fact.What will happen if from now on every country threaten from US and NATO call Russians for help,and they bring S-300,500,1000,whatever?No more flying and killing....wake up,new world order is here!!!!!

 

Agreed!

Perhaps the potential for a http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html is appreciated.

 

Ahaha. Your comment has a lot of pathos, but does not make sense. .... But as usual.

Here is the "isolation" of Russia.

[video=youtube;FANRgr7QdJw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FANRgr7QdJw[/video]

In addition, where journalists are always you can see who are the most important guest.

 

I often recollect seeing a group photo-op of one of the G7-8 meetings; every one of the head honchos were grinning like children as they jostled for a place, and there was pres. Putin looking on at them as if he's thinking 'WTF am I doing here amongst these nincompoops.' - as well he might???

 

How is this news? Did you expect the RAF to not shoot at threatening Russian planes?

I think it's common procedure for any country to use force if they think they are going to be attacked.

edit: it seems like you think the british should just let the russians do whatever they want, and not respond. nonsense. The british are saying this to make it clear to the russians that they shouldn't mess around. Russians apparently like to poke nato sometimes. Turkey shot you down, and the UK is just making clear that they will also shoot you down if you do anything. It is to avoid misunderstandings.

 

I'd hate to be the one who did! Think 'WW3' - you'd like that wouldn't you?

 

You are half right. Ordinarily, it would be standard procedure to allow your planes to shoot down someone who was trying to shoot them down. But that is when you are operating in an area where you belong: either your own territory, international airspace, or the territory of a country that has invited you there in the first place. It is very different if you choose to get yourself involved in someone else's territory without invitation and then authorize your pilots to shoot down anyone who might target them. That is provocative although I am sure that if the Russians called the Brits on their bluff, the Brits (and the Americans) would quickly work to deescalate things.

 

Reminiscent of these three when they were deciding how to carve up Europe

 

It is standard procedure to shoot down threats regardless of the legal situation. The british in syria, whether legally or not, will shoot down russian planes if they threaten them. Just as Russians in Crimea will attack e.g. Ukrainians if they threaten them there, even though the russians are there illegally. I'm just saying, this isn't any breaking news. Military forces, regardless of where they are, and how legal it is, will always defend themselves.

I mean, there will never be a situation where the british are like: "oh go ahead and shoot at us we don't mind"

 

Everything is always centered around Vladimir Putin. It shows that integrity and intelligence always wins out, while lies and deceptions are a reflection of little people.

 

People will always believe what they want to believe.
The story is untrue. It was even untrue when the rumours were flying around last year.

 

Stalin outsmarted them, but it only led to hatred and resentment by the nations that became part of the Soviet Union. This is why Vladimir Putin said that you cannot impose yourself on other nations, and that it was tried by the Soviet Union and failed ...and it will fail with the US as well.

 

LOL..I think you have been hitting the vodka comrade. You're not making any kind of sense. I just pointed out the UN authorization. The UN Security Council authorization was passed unanimously. Even your beloved Mother Russia voted for it. NATO has lost ZERO warplanes in the region. Russia's warplane was shot down by a NATO warplane when it invaded NATO airspace. Did Mother Putin not tell you about that or is the booze clouding your mind?

Your Mother Russia isn't a threat to NATO. Keep dreaming; but be careful; reality might bite you in the derriere.

 

Be honest comrade; I'm sure you can find lots of pictures of world leaders with Putin. Russia wasn't always a pariah state. After the Soviet Union the West reached out to Russia. The West provided Russia with money, food, and other supplies. It gave Russia a seat on the UN Security Council. Up until Russia began invading and annexing the lands of neighboring states, the US provided Russia with financial aid.

But the fact remains, Russia has become a pariah state. Russia is under international sanctions for its illegal invasions, occupations, and annexations of neighboring states.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...n/news-story/ac1af5274ffa3e4ee9c0abd5c79e0a1d

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/08/01/putins-ukraine-mistakes-have-made-him-pariah-260303.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Ukrainian_crisis

 

Turkey was part of the American coalition, and they had an agreement with Russia. Each one was to notify the other when they were flying. It was up to Washington to notify Turkey, and either Washington didn't, or Turkey ignored it. According to Erdogan when he apologized, it was Devotoglu who gave the order to shoot the plane, and he had contact with Washington, so it was probably on Washington's suggestion.

This was a stab in the back by Turkey and to Vladimir Putin treachery is the worse thing one can do. It was especially painful in that all of Turkey's economic growth over the past decade was because of Russia and Vladimir Putin. Russia immediately responded by stopping all its tourists from going to Turkey, and within a few months thousands of hotels went broke. He also stopped Russians from hiring Turkish contracting firms and workers. Turkey was hurt badly, that's why Erdogan apologized.

As for Russia poking around Nato, what is Nato doing anyway next to Russia? The agreement with Gorbachov was that Nato wouldn't move an inch into former Warsaw countries?

 

That was nearly 3 decades ago. The West has become stupid since then.

 

Ahahaha.... As Einstein said (you know who is it?) "Only the universe and stupidity are limitless. With that in relation to the universe I'm not sure" ...

Russia, in the face of the Soviet Union, created the United Nations. Russia has a veto in the UN Security Council ....

However...for you explain it does not make sense. In your alternate universe all in another . Is not it?