The Story Of Mohammed: Islam Unveiled.

I know you're joking now but there are millions of Muslims on this earth that would slit your throat or burn you alive for disrespecting Islam or Mohammad. That's just how the world spins there's nothing you or I can do about it.

 

I lived in the Muslim world for years.. They didn't insult Christians and we didn't insult Islam. Where did you grow up? What were you taught about civility?

 

I never gave much thought to religion or Islam in particular until that day in 2001. That got me researching and right off the bat I see 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. I assumed they weren't the Dalai Lama Liberation Front. One thing lead to another an bingo I figured out it's a radical form of Islam practised by who knows how many millions?

 

Actually.. we have no idea who 6 of them were...

I used to live in Arabia.. and I loved it. The people like Americans.

 

Did you attend the same madrassa in Saudi Arabia as Huma Abedin?

 

Madrassas are for boys ages 6-12 in Pakistan.. not in Arabia. I attended ARAMCO Senior Staff schools.. Huma attended an international school.

 

Jews, yes. Muslim, they captured that area.

http://www.foresthomechurch.org/wp-...he-Real-History-of-the-Crusades-by-Madden.pdf

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And of those five sharia law and killing the infidel is among them.

 

That's just your ignorance talking.

 

I am talking about the Message of Jesus.. VS the Message of Muhamad...

Christians made things I am ashamed of...but Jesus made peace and love while Muhamad made wars and raped girls and womens...forces his son in law to divorce his wife to marry her then dumped her

 

Hmm .. the messages of Jesus ...

According to all four gospels, Jesus entered the temple courtyard and found the events of his day to be sub-par. He made a whip out of cords and drove out all the people and their animals, turning over their tables in the process. That, quite frankly, does not sound like the behaviour of someone committed to nonviolence.

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace but a sword. - Matthew 10:34

And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. - Luke 22:35-37

 

According to Islam

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira*)
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

According to Christianity

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments

 

Jihad is the internal struggle to be a good Muslim and submit to the will of God.

 

I will place credibility with those who disagree with you. You are either too gullible to accept reality, or you are some shill for these people. I listen to a man who lives in Canada, a prior muslim, who grew up in Saudi Arabia, and who knows it from the inside, not like you, that looks from the outside. I give credibility to people who like you have lived in that neck of the woods, and are journalists, who have spent a part of their life studying the muslim brotherhood and wahabism, both virulent and conservative forms of islam. For they have no dog in this hunt, while you have, for some reason, many dogs in this hunt and are totally incapable of objectivity.

You are just a shill and apologist, and most people know that. And you are entitled to your own opinion of course, but you are also very deceptive as well, and this is the problem here. The only question for me is, is this deception intentional, with a motive driving it, or is it just an innocent deception created by this bias that you have, with an ego being involved to reinforce the bias? I hope it is the latter and not the former. And so I will continue to only give credibility to those people that intellectually are trustworthy, and who present verifiable facts, both current and historical. Attribute that to an education at university when an education was an education and not indoctrination into WHAT to think, but rather in how to think rationally, logically, with a firm foundation of verifiable facts.

 

I am pretty old and unlike your Saudi friend I have been all over Arabia including their schools and universities.. And, being a woman I had access socially to both men and women. I also have the advantage of seeing how far they have come in the past 70 years.

Most journalists if they have actually been to Arabia were only there 4-5 days and were never in Saudi homes or Bedouin camps or palaces or rural villages..

The Wahhabi are conservative and family oriented, and very friendly towards Americans.

Perhaps YOU are the one who has been indoctrinated.. or didn't you go to university at all?

 

Very interesting. Thanks for the link. Downloaded the PDF and am now reading it.

 

Which explains why they conquered, by force, the known world. And continue to do so today. Internal my foot!

 

\HAHAHA you laugh at your primitive mind... Muhamad himself waged wars and called for jihad of the sword....

You cannot escape the reality that is Muhamad is a fake prophet and he is satans servant.

 

No its not. For men of fighting age it means war.

First 23 of 52 uses of the term Jihad in the Bukhari Hadiths.

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25:
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25:
The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any sariya going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah's cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause."

Volume 1, Book 10, Number 505:
I asked the Prophet "Which deed is the dearest to Allah?" He replied, "To offer the prayers at their early stated fixed times." I asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?" He replied, "To be good and dutiful to your parents" I again asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?" He replied, 'To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's cause."

Volume 2, Book 15, Number 86:
The Prophet said, "No good deeds done on other days are superior to those done on these (first ten days of Dhul Hijja)." Then some companions of the Prophet said, "Not even Jihad?" He replied, "Not even Jihad, except that of a man who does it by putting himself and his property in danger (for Allah's sake) and does not return with any of those things."

Volume 2, Book 24, Number 547:
Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) ordered (a person) to collect Zakat, and that person returned and told him that Ibn Jamil, Khalid bin Al-Walid, and Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib had refused to give Zakat." The Prophet said, "What made Ibn Jamll refuse to give Zakat though he was a poor man, and was made wealthy by Allah and His Apostle ? But you are unfair in asking Zakat from Khalid as he is keeping his armor for Allah's Cause (for Jihad).

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 594:
The Prophet was asked, "Which is the best deed?" He said, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle." He was then asked, "Which is the next (in goodness)?" He said, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's Cause."

Volume 3, Book 29, Number 84:
I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shouldn't we participate in Holy battles and Jihad along with you?" He replied, "The best and the most superior Jihad (for women) is Hajj which is accepted by Allah.

Volume 3, Book 31, Number 121:
...So, whoever was amongst the people who used to offer their prayers, will be called from the gate of the prayer; and whoever was amongst the people who used to participate in Jihad, will be called from the gate of Jihad;

Volume 3, Book 46, Number 724:
Allah's Apostle said, "A pious slave gets a double reward." Abu Huraira added: By Him in Whose Hands my soul is but for Jihad (i.e. holy battles),

Volume 4, Book 51, Number 33:
When 'Umar got a piece of land in Khaibar, he came to the Prophet saying, "I have got a piece of land, better than which I have never got. So what do you advise me regarding it?" The Prophet said, "If you wish you can keep it as an endowment to be used for charitable purposes." So, 'Umar gave the land in charity (i.e. as an endowments on the condition that the land would neither be sold nor given as a present, nor bequeathed, (and its yield) would be used for the poor, the kinsmen, the emancipation of slaves, Jihad, and for guests and travelers; and its administrator could eat in a reasonable just manner, and he also could feed his friends without intending to be wealthy by its means."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 41:
I asked Allah's Apostle, "O Allah's Apostle! What is the best deed?" He replied, "To offer the prayers at their early stated fixed times." I asked, "What is next in goodness?" He replied, "To be good and dutiful to your parents." I further asked, what is next in goodness?" He replied, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's Cause." I did not ask Allah's Apostle anymore and if I had asked him more, he would have told me more.

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 42:
Allah's Apostle said, "There is no Hijra (i.e. migration) (from Mecca to Medina) after the Conquest (of Mecca), but Jihad and good intention remain; and if you are called (by the Muslim ruler) for fighting, go forth immediately.

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 43:
(That she said), "O Allah's Apostle! We consider Jihad as the best deed. Should we not fight in Allah's Cause?" He said, "The best Jihad (for women) is Hajj-Mabrur (i.e. Hajj which is done according to the Prophet's tradition and is accepted by Allah)."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 44:
A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, "Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward)." He replied, "I do not find such a deed." Then he added, "Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?" The man said, "But who can do that?" Abu- Huraira added, "The Mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders bout (for grazing) tied in a long rope."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 56:
,,,Later on it happened that she went out in the company of her husband 'Ubada bin As-Samit who went for Jihad and it was the first time the Muslims undertook a naval expedition led by Mu awiya.

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 79:
On the day of the Conquest (of Mecca) the Prophet said, "There is no emigration after the Conquest but Jihad and intentions. When you are called (by the Muslim ruler) for fighting, go forth immediately." (See Hadith No. 42)

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 81:
In the life-time of the Prophet, Abu Talha did not fast because of the Jihad, but after the Prophet died I never saw him without fasting except on 'Id-ul-Fitr and 'Id-ul-Aclha.

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 85:
....He told us that Zaid bin Thabit had told him that Allah's Apostle had dictated to him the Divine Verse:
"Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and lives.' (4.95)
Zaid said, "Ibn-Maktum came to the Prophet while he was dictating to me that very Verse. On that Ibn Um Maktum said, "O Allah's Apostle! If I had power, I would surely take part in Jihad."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 87:
Allah's Apostle went towards the Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and saw the Emigrants and the Ansar digging in a very cold morning as they did not have slaves to do that for them. When he noticed their fatigue and hunger he said, "O Allah! The real life is that of the Here-after, (so please) forgive the Ansar and the Emigrants." In its reply the Emigrants and the Ansar said, "We are those who have given a pledge of allegiance to Muhammad that we will carry on Jihad as long as we live."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 88:
The Emigrants and the Ansar started digging the trench around Medina carrying the earth on their backs and saying, "We are those who have given a pledge of allegiance to Muhammad that we will I carry on Jihad as long as we live."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 104:
The Prophet said, "Good will remain (as a permanent quality) in the foreheads of horses (for Jihad) till the Day of Resurrection, for they bring about either a reward (in the Hereafter) or booty (in this world."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 112:
The one for whom they are a source of reward, is he who keeps a horse for Allah's Cause (i.e. Jihad)


For a Sunni male of fighting age Jihad means holy war. The need for "horses" and "armour", the reward of "booty" captured in war, to die as a "martyr", makes it clear that it means fighting.

 

Except for some brief periods Islam spread via trade and intermarriage. The Arabs were trading with Mesopotamia, Egypt, East Africa and the Indus Valley long before Islam.

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What's the source of your cut and paste?

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What's the source of your cut and paste?

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What's the source of your cut and paste.. and who added the language in parins?

 

Like I said, "the Bukhari Hadiths"
http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/

What is the source of your BS views regarding Jihad?

 

Then enlighten me with evidence.

 

Bukhari hadiths were written in Persia 200 years after the death of Muhammed.

 

Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī (Arabic: صحيح البخاري‎&#8206, is one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadithcollections) of Sunni Islam. These prophetic traditions, or hadith, were collected by thePersian Muslim scholar Muhammad al-Bukhari, after being transmitted orally for generations. Sunni Muslims view this as one of the two most trusted collections of hadith along with Sahih Muslim[SUP][1][/SUP] It is also used as an authentic hadith collection by Zaidi Shia Muslims.[SUP][2][/SUP] In some circles, it is considered the most authentic book after the Quran.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][page needed][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] The Arabic word sahih translates as authentic or correct.[SUP][5]
[/SUP]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahih_al-Bukhari

 

nobody gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about doctrine.

 

He collected 60,000 and there's no agreement on what is authentic.